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I suggest protecting this page. The neutrality of the article is disputed in previous edits. Thank you Aadhitharajantalk 13:49, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
Vatasura Aadhitharajan Good night friends, I am Filipino so it's time for bed for me as it is 2:30AM. Please keep an eye on Saffron White Green - if he continues to ignore edit summaries asking him to seek consensus here at talk page, and continues to add unsourced statements, please make a report to WP:AIV. Remember to always assume good faith, but it is hard to assume such when the user won't talk to us. Also, please keep an eye on the article in general. This is a very charged topic both for and against - both the animal rights people and the Tamil Nadu "bull embracing" supporters are going to try to get unsourced statements in under the radar. As an aside, this is what I love about Wikipedia - a protest like this would barely be covered at all in my local media, but by getting sucked into this article I do a lot of research and learn about a big controversy I had no idea existed. Take care all! Psiĥedelisto (talk) 18:33, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
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its not taming its bull embracing 125.22.193.148 (talk) 06:23, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
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The main demand is for removal of Bull from Preforming Animal act by amending PCA Act and banning the PETA. And all other demand like boycot of Coke etc are just spin offs. And Beef ban has nothing to do with the protest neither the protesters demand it. The protest is more of socio-eco-cultural protection with rationality than being sacrosanct to the cow. Tamils Consider cow as wealth and respect. But having said that they do not support beef ban nor call for closure of slaughterer house. Considerable Tamils do eat beef and are not in favor of beef ban. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2009prasanth (talk • contribs) 05:38, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
The demand to "Prohibit all Organisations and Educational Institutions in Tamil Nadu from diverting their foreign funds for proselytizing mission, mass mobilization and anti-national activities." should be removed as there is no such slogans in the protest. It is misleading. Otherwise provide reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashok 893 (talk • contribs) 10:42, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
Add actor Ragava Lawrence who did lot for protestors in marina Anishkumar srak (talk) 11:15, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
Add actor Ragava Lawrence who did lot for protestors in marina — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.178.236.213 (talk) 11:29, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
Prohibit all Organisations and Educational Institutions in Tamil Nadu from diverting their foreign funds for proselytizing mission, mass mobilization and anti-national activities.
There was no such demands. some Anti Jallikattu supporters are trying deviate protesters to another topic — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdrazvi (talk • contribs) 12:14, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
hi..
pls add Mr. Ragava lawrence name in the supporters list.. he played a major role in chennai providing food medicines.. Deepika173 (talk) 14:34, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
I would appreciate it if you could reword the paragraph below for clarity - Singaporean Tamils are not protesting. We have neither cause for nor gain through these protests. It would help to make it clear that the foreign Tamils from India are the ones protesting. Thank you for your time and consideration.
"Support for the protest also came from Tamils around the world[56] such as in Sri Lanka, UK, Australia, New Zealand, Singapore, Malaysia, Canada, China, Russia, United States,UAE[57] France, South Africa."[58]
116.87.224.112 (talk) 14:54, 21 January 2017 (UTC)Esha
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I am a youth from Tamilnadu and a part of the protests. Please grant me the permission to edit the article. The particular edits will be made:
1) New Hyperlinks will be added.
2) New details as per News Updates will be updated.
3) Content will be verified for any unintentional mistakes in grammar and spellings. Nivaas Sudhan (talk) 14:45, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
Please change the words BULL TAMING into BULL EMBRACING as the later depicts the sport more appropriately.
-- Boobal Ganesan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 183.83.50.51 (talk) 15:12, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
Plz add meme creators name Kathirrihtak.t (talk) 16:23, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
--Sivaasmm48 (talk) 10:39, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
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Sivaasmm48 (talk) 10:39, 21 January 2017 (UTC)Support for the protest also came from Tamils around the world such as indian medical students from Georgia ,Ukraine ,Phillipines ,Guyana, China ,
Support for Jallikattu also came from Tamils in Germany, Netherlands as well.
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122.164.37.165 (talk) 07:37, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
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On 20th Jan 2017, TN Government submitted an ordinance to allow Jallikattu to be conducted. It was approved by Central Govt Ministry and has been sent to President of India for his nod. Iaravindh (talk) 08:28, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
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Selvarani selvadurai (talk) 16:51, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
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Topic should be "jallikattu movement" KN 07:05, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
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template. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:32, 21 January 2017 (UTC)Hi it's been recommended that the article I created about Karthikeya Sivasenapathy be merged here as he does not have sufficient individual notability apart from his role in the protests. I have tried to reduce the content in the article and rewritten it so that it sounds neutral. Admins please review before merging.
--Schandrasekar (talk) 19:31, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
The Endless list of supporters is not required. Please remove the Supporters Section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gan13166 (talk • contribs)
Backbone TN Youngster participation and common peoples was not highlighted, priority was given to the Industry based participant in the content. Ramkumar Venkatesan (talk) 02:57, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
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Please rename the title as : Marina Tamil Spring 2017 Sivasu2 (talk) 04:33, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
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Day and night, even when raining, Thousands of Youngsters including women and children are protesting in DESA-BANDHU ground in VIRUDHUNAGAR. 117.206.131.36 (talk) 04:36, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
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Hi,
Kindly change the Title into "Jallikattu Revolution" from jallikattu protest. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mageshprasath (talk • contribs) 05:14, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
Not clear what is the link to A2 protein - health & protests. Need more clarity & citations.J mareeswaran (talk) 10:11, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
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All over the page its mentioned bull taming but its not, Its bull embracing. It was long time called bull taming which delivered the context of the sport wrong to many people, which eventually led to misunderstanding by many who read only english and not tamil. Please refer the suggestion by leading people of Tamil Nadu, which was also going at a side at the time of protest.
Kindly change it as this created a misconception among all non tamil people. so please.m 182.65.81.27 (talk) 04:28, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
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template. The majority of sources call it bull taming and "bull embracing" sounds ridiculous in English. Would someone embrace their mother by grabbing her by the hump and holding on for 15 metres or 30 seconds? Of course not. We don't use euphemisms at Wikipedia. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 06:12, 23 January 2017 (UTC)![]() | This edit requestto2017 pro-Jallikattu protests has been answered. Set the |answered= or|ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
please change 'mancu' to 'manju' because it is incorrect. Refer this page also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jallikattu 2404:F801:8028:2:0:0:0:6A7 (talk) 05:48, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
Done - Arjayay (talk) 09:10, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
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Please add something about Tamilnadu jallikattu peravai thalaivar Dr.P.Rajasekaran who has been fighting to lift the ban on jallikattu in India from the beginning itself and also please make note on this too,He is the one who supports financially by selling his own property to run the case successfully in supreme court of India.
note: This is not a request from myself only,most of the peoples knows about it and also Hip-hop thamizha Aadhi & senadhipathi also ponited out this during their campaign of creating awareness among peoples 122.174.171.160 (talk) 08:25, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
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All the information given was correct but an additional in formation is yet be added. At a result of the youngster's protest tn Government with central government took decision to conduct Jallikattu as a permanent cultural sport every year and a law passed and made it true . Student protest has made a victory even thought there was a clash at the final
thankyou hope you make my statement Dossarms (talk) 14:37, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
I think the article has great potential to get a good article status as there's a lot of material, but in its current state, I feel it's a mess. Can we have a discussion on how it can be more organised? I propose the following sections:
Please leave suggestions. Thank you. - Nirinsanity (talk) 19:37, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
There are many Videos and photos , where the Tamil Nadu police itself Setting Fire a Hut , Auto Rickshaw , Vehicles and Damaging Many Public Property , unwanted Violence against Public , Hitting Kids , Ladies , Pelting stones. Police claiming this are morphed, seriously are they in 2017? here i will link those Video links. here where the india's Great Actor Kamal Hassan Sharing a Video in his Verified Twitter Handle where a Police man Burning a public Auto Rickshaw and kamal hassan quotes 'What is this. Please explain some one" [1] Here Picture where police beats the protesters and Takes away their food and Eats it [2] Here Police damaging Vehicles in Marina Beach, Chennai [3] here video police doing unwanted damage and violence against people who are standing inside their house [4] Here Another Video where Police Firing Public Auto Rickshaws [5] This is a Twitter tag that was trending few hours back "#shameonTNpolice" [6] Here Police beating a BBC TV Reporter [7] Here a Lady Police Burning a Hut [8] and there are several other proofs available in that Twitter tag itself. and Many Local Media Showed this Illegal activities caused by police. here Reliable Reference and source ‘It’s A Mistake’: Kamal Haasan Condemns Tamil Nadu Police For Evicting Supporters (TIMES NOW )[9] News18 report Cops setting fire [10]
So Please add this information and facts Jallikattuman (talk) 02:20, 24 January 2017
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Anna Stadium in Nagercoil was also a part of the protest with 4000 people. 94.200.75.171 (talk) 05:36, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
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{{subst:trim| 220.158.143.139 (talk) 07:52, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
"Throughout the movement, the protests were largely seen as being peaceful, but turned violent on 23 January."
this line needs to be edited. the protest did not turn violent. some anti social elements made it violent. the students continued to peaceful protest. certain violence were caused by anit social elements and police themselves.
http://www.news18.com/news/india/jallikattu-chennai-police-under-fire-as-video-shows-cop-setting-auto-ablaze-1339738.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.217.194.7 (talk) 10:48, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
Many sources I am reading, such as [1] use "jallikattu". Others, such as [2] capitalize it. (Note, I am only counting uses of "Jallikattu mid-sentence.) As per WP:MOSCAPS I believe it should not be capitalized. But what do Indian Wikipedians think? Psiĥedelisto (talk) 06:21, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
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VasanthanVelladurai (talk) 21:42, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
Include Finland also in the Participant country List
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Hi team, Thanks for creating this page proud moment, but you have not mentioned the names of people who really fought for this issue for the past few years. Veeravelaittu mettupu kalagam head Mr. Rajesh who is been fighting in the supreme court,debates in many TV channels, protest against cine stars who supported peta and other organizations against jallikattu. And finally he was also in the press meet to announce the bad is been lifted and gave further explanations to conclude the protest. 203.63.57.27 (talk) 22:21, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
தமிழகத்தின் மாபெரும் இளைஞர்கள் தன்னெழுச்சி போராட்டம் உலகில் மிகப்பெரிய கடற்கரையான சென்னை மெரீனாவில் குழுமியுள்ள கூட்டம் பற்றிய கருத்து மிகப்பெரிய சமூகவலைதளமான விக்கீபீடியாவில் தவறாக பதியப்பட்டுள்ளது தமிழனாகிய நானும் அதே போராட்ட களத்தில் இருக்கும் இளைஞனாகிய நான் சொல்கிறேன் இங்கு குழுமியுள்ள தமிழர்கள் 1 லட்சமல்ல 9 லட்சம் மக்கள் என்பதே உண்மை திருத்தம் செய்ய வேண்டுகோள் விடுக்கிறேன் அன்புடன் கவிஞர் கனகரத்தினம் கவிஞர்கனகரத்தினம் (talk) 07:50, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
Superb Sridharpriyamettur (talk) 18:24, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
In the article's Support section talks like the protest was initiated by a celebrity. Yes, HipHop Thamizha has been a strong supporter of Jallikattu and was the foremost in the celeb list to express it without fear. However, this protest or 'Pro-Jallikattu movement' was clearly not initiated by him. Same way, is there evidence to show that students praised Raghava Lawrence as next Superstar? Even if they did, it is not a unanimous statement. I recommend the author to just report things as happened. There are lot more celebs came forward and expressed their views. Those can simply come under supporters, their emotional outbursts are not needed to be mentioned as this is purely a leaderless non-political youth's activity. Otherwise, I appreciate the article. ~ Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.207.188.210 (talk) 16:45, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the update. Just 2 points to mention; 1. There is no evidence that 'this' protest was initiated by Mr. Karthikeya Sivasenapathy. So giving little more emphasis on the time, I think the first sentence may read as, “Earlier, protests were supported...” 2. who “... named him as a new Superstar of Tamil Nadu.” ??? - this ungrounded statement seems to be endorsing. ~Thanks
it is must to remove karthikeya sivasenapathy, lorentz and hip hop tamilza. they may protested and fought in previous stage. but tis january pro jallikattu protest is initiated,organised by students. mentioning students will alone be correct. for their own cause and popularity they may used the chance and stage it should not considered in an encyclopedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 163.47.15.10 (talk) 15:36, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
POV is tagged on main page, but I don't see discussion. The user who added should have discussed at talk page. So, I removed the POV template. Section "Support and opposition" is clear for POV. --AntanO 04:50, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
So, it seems like this event is mostly over, but from my research it seems like it could start up again any time. I added what I found in this edit [3], I request that interested editors please look it over. From my research, I can find very few concrete differences between the 2017 Tamil Nadu Assembly ordinance and the 2009 one. All it seems to do is kick the can down the road until PETA comes around and challenges them again. Psiĥedelisto (talk) 05:30, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
Pl include the name of Jalikattu probprotest as Thai puratchi தை புரட்சி.
Vivekchelsea (talk) 13:59, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
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Please add the Jallikattu Protest Website link which I am developing,
http://www.jallikattuprotest.com/ Itsvinothkumar (talk) 03:04, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
AWBI has already challenged the 2017 Tamil Nadu state law in court, citing that it conflicts with Indian federal law (and is therefore illegal/null and void).
See the sources I cited in [4]. Please be careful with claiming in the infobox/lead/elsewhere in article that jallikattu has been fully legalized. No it hasn't, according to Indian legal experts (including a high ranking government attorney/minister) and AWBI, who has already challenged the new law. Federal law always wins over state law in a federal system, and I expect the Supreme Court to once again nullify the jallikattu ordinance. Action is needed from the Centre to stop this vicious cycle, period. (Please note some of this is unencyclopedic POV, but everything I put in the article is well sourced. ) Psiĥedelisto (talk) 20:29, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
I've been checking the Indian papers whenever I remember, and saw this today. [8] From this I can see that the Supreme Court is definitely interested in continuing the case. They refused to grant a stay order all out declaring the law unconstitutional, but have sought a statement from the state of Tamil Nadu about the new law. From my experience in other courts this is step one in turning over the new law -- the language of it is too different for the court to just flip it on its head immediately with an order, regardless of however much they'd probably like to do that. I think this is too new/vague/not a major event to put into the article, but if the Tamil Nadu government takes the maximum six weeks to reply (which is in their interest, as it slows down the inevitable declaration of unconstitutionality), we have a respite as far as updating this article is concerned. Psiĥedelisto (talk) 15:03, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
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Awesome support from youngsters. Hats off guys — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.89.154.131 (talk) 11:01, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Political stance is usually added in most articles involving protests. However this article does not have such a heading.
The following points could be added as a paragraph.
--Kanhakris2297 (talk) 08:29, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
Provide examples, also see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTSPolitical stance is usually added in most articles involving protests. However this article does not have such a heading.
In 2011, Congress led UPA Government, under Jairam Ramesh as Environment Minister banned Jallikattu.
Congress leader Jairam Ramesh was Environment minister in 2011 when the Ministry issued a notification banning the use of bulls as performing animals. While the sport had continued under the Tamil Nadu Regulation of Jallikattu Act, a 2014 Supreme Court judgement had put an end to that.This WP:OR. The content about the ban is already in the article.
WP:NPOV, the same sources says "Digvijaya Singh who outrightly support it" while you had cherry picked content.In 2015, Congress leader and former prime minister of India, Dr.Manmohan Singh called Jallikattu as "cruel", and in a letter to The Human Society International/India affiliate, wished it success on its objective to get the bull fight (Jallikattu) banned.
Senior Congress leader, Jairam Ramesh, in 2014, welcomed ban on Jallikattu.
Sources??However later, the party changed its stance after protests began.
In 2015, the BJP led Central government decided to lift the ban on animal performance in religious festivals like Jallikattu.
Environment minister Prakash Javadekar had recently spoken about the possibility of amending the law to allow performance of animals like elephants in religious functions and bullocks in traditional rural sporting events.Possibility is not decided. - SUN EYE 1 10:46, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
Political stance is given under Reactions Heading in this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932021_Bulgarian_protests#Domestic . The various statements made by political leader have been quoted. So a similar thing can be added here.Provide examples, also see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS
Your problem is not with the content here but that I have left out something. Obviously entire article can't be written, a summary of the quotes can be written. If you think that something is left out, you could add it, rather than deleting that which is a fact cited in the reference. So I'll add those and modify a bit here,
--Kanhakris2297 (talk) 12:47, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
What??You can't act like you did not add all those WP:OR that I pointed out above and that was the reason I reverted your edit.Your problem is not with the content here but that I have left out something.
This formula sounds confusing, did one mean "non-partisan" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.193.35.108 (talk) 15:13, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
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