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The result of the move request was: Moved to 2018 NFC Championship Game. Consensus does not support the title "officiating controversy". — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:50, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
This page seems to focus mostly on that one play in particular. Maybe we should rename it "2018-19 NFC Championship game officiating controversy" or "2019 Rams-Saints officiating controversy" (which I prefer), unless there is an official name for the play such as "No call". --WuTang94 (talk) 01:46, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply] EDIT: Just for clarification, Agree would mean changing the title to "2019 NFC Championship game officiating controversy" and Oppose would mean the title would stay as "2018–19 NFC Championship game", which was the title when I opened this debate.--WuTang94 (talk) 16:31, 26 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose We should not have an article on an incident in a game, especially if there is no article for the game itself. The article probably needs to be rewritten. AIRcorn(talk)07:29, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Doesn't mean those are right. A play should not be come before the game itself. We have effectively put the cart before the horse. Many of those articles are formatted like a game article anyway. There may be WP:Split arguments on having an article on the play as well as a game one. Considering it is relatively recent and doesn't even have a common name it is too early to say whether it has enough impact to be individually notable anyway. AIRcorn(talk)05:48, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Agree I believe this article should be changed to either of the suggested titles as it originally was 2018 NFC Championship Game officiating controversy (should've been 19 or 18-19, but still about the single play), but was changed for whatever reason without any discussion. Also, I agree with WuTang94.-EDG 543 (talk) 13:57, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oh... yeah, it's interesting that the page was already named that before, now that you pointed it out. Looking at the logs, it does look like someone changed it randomly without discussion. In my opinion the blown-call play was really the only notable part of this game that merits its own article, but let's get more opinions in here before making it official. --WuTang94 (talk) 20:24, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose and improve article – Instead of renaming the article to have it centered on just the officiating controversy, it should be turned into an article that represents other NFC/AFC Championship Games on Wikipedia; take note of 1998 NFC Championship Game, a featured article. There's already a good amount of detail on the aftermath of the game, all the article needs is a background and a game summary. Aria1561 (talk) 04:34, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Agree I believe the title should be let as it was originally because the controversial play changed the whole outcome of the came as was the case in the Bottlegate. Without the controversial play, this wouldn't be a historical event.IVG773 (talk) 17:42, 25 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Post-merger NFL playoff games are typically referred to with the year of their preceding season, so there is no merit to having "2019" in the title. ONR(talk)17:33, 27 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: This is what the NFL gets for now holding all its playoff games in a different calendar year than its regular season, and thus another thing to cause some of us Wikipedians headaches, as this article has been moved back and forth between "2018...", "2019..." and "2018–19...". Look at these two Google results:
And this naming contention (XXXX Championship Game = game played in January XXYY for the XXXX season) continues on subsequent Google searches (because as noted, NFL playoff games had been typically referred to with the year of their preceding season) until you get to the last few years. If we strictly follow a consistent naming convention here (see WP:NAMINGCRITERIA), the article we are discussing should be moved to 2018 NFC Championship Game: Rams vs. Saints played on January 2019 to determine the NFC champion for the 2018 season. But what happens for Google searches for the last few years like http://www.google.com/search?&q=2018+NFC+Championship+Game is that you primarily get instead Vikings vs. Eagles played on January 2018 to determine the 2017 NFC champion. In these last few years, something happened where reliable sources started to refer to the recent games using the calendar year it was played in January. If you want Rams/Saints/January 2019, that primarily is instead http://www.google.com/search?&q=2019+NFC+Championship+GameZzyzx11 (talk) 03:01, 28 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose the difference between this article and others, such as Butt Fumble and Fail Mary, is that there is a WP:COMMONNAME that has come to encompass the subject, which can include the play itself, the overall, game, and the legacy. If there was a common name, such as No Call, than that should be the title. Since there isn't, than the title should revert to the event itself, which is the game. The game is what makes the play and surrounding controversy notable (i.e. if this was a preseason game, no one would care). Based on a cursory review, the common name of the subject of this article is it's current title. We don't need to add a WP:DESCRIPTIVENAME. « Gonzo fan2007(talk) @ 16:09, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
At 12:34, 15 April 2019 Frank Anchor moved page 2018 NFC Championship Gameto2018–19 NFC Championship Game (Move page to 2018–19 NFC Championship Game as the game was played in January 2019. Also matches naming convention for each NFL season's playoff article (e.g. 2018–19 NFL playoffs).)
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I question as to why this section was ever deleted. Of course it wasn't as major as the 2018 Championship game, that's why it doesn't have it's own page. It seemed related and notable enough to earn a section in this article. All of the news said that the Saint got cheated again, which makes it relatable to this event. Before you delete it again, please discuss. Thanks, EDG 543 (talk) 01:56, 21 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose. The name being "catchier" is not the reason to request a move, while "concise" does not mean anything to people unfamiliar with the subject. In addition, as already noted above, the page is about the game and not lone play. – Sabbatino (talk) 14:57, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - 2018 NFC Championship Game is more descriptive of the game itself, which is the subject of the article, not just the play. Rlendog (talk) 16:26, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose This article is about the whole game, not just a single play. It actually was about the play when I first created it, but the consensus was that it should be about the whole game. You can see the discussion directly above this one for more information. Thanks, EDG 543 (talk) 14:53, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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