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![]() | This article contains a translationofKabinetsformatie Nederland 2023-'24 from nl.wikipedia. |
![]() | On 13 June 2024, it was proposed that this article be movedto2023–2024 cabinet formation in the Netherlands. The result of the discussion was no consensus. |
The result of the move request was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 09:49, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
2023–2024 Dutch cabinet formation → 2023–2024 cabinet formation in the Netherlands – Similar to Cabinet of the Netherlands and Category:Cabinet formation in the Netherlands, it makes sense to rename from the ambigious "Dutch" to "the Netherlands". Downside is that other countries also use the current structure, see Category:Cabinet formation, but could of course be renamed in the future. Dajasj (talk) 22:20, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
it makes sense to rename from the ambigious "Dutch". So while Dutch means both "of the Netherlands" and the language, since cabinet is a political body, the only intuitive meaning here is "of the Netherlands". (Plus, regarding the languages, in titles we disambiguate that at the other end, e.g. by spelling out Dutch-language, Danish-language, etc.) In other words, there is nothing wrong with the current name. The suggested name isn't wrong either, it's just a bit more cumbersome way of saying exactly the same thing. So already this shouldn't move. Regarding TITLECON, you correctly pointed out in the intro that the move you suggest is entirely inconsistent with the name of formations in other countries ("
Downside is that other countries also use the current structure"). You forgot to point out that it is also entirely inconsistent with the title used for all other cabinet formations of the Netherlands. To the extent possible, we really want titles to be internally and externally consistent. As for wrong forum: this should have ben set out to all formations of all countries in order to create consistent outcomes for all countries plus internal consistency. This was at the end to focus on the content and consistency of your suggestion as first and second on a scale of importance. I object to this proposal on all counts. gidonb (talk) 09:55, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.