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Oppose - Google results say that 'wesley johnson entertainer' results 118,000 hits and that 'wesley 2play johnson' results either 8,000 or 39,900 hits. Also, no news articles use the proposed title, and neither do books most likely. Per WP:TITLEFORMAT, unless quotation mark is part of the official name, quotation marks are discouraged. As for the quotation marks themselves, I don't see why a reader would use them besides using them as code searches, and... they are plain-ugly as Level 1 headers. --George Ho (talk) 04:09, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
@George Ho: sorry but that kind of search produces no data since no one says "John Smith singer" - English grammar is to put the qualifier first "singer John Smith", consequently what you've picked up with "John Smith singer" is just noice, urls, Wikipedia ghosting. You need to run the search "singer John Smith" to get in-sentence quotes. "the entertainer wesley johnson" gets = zero. But there are full in-sentence refs for the name, and we do have other articles with titles like this, though I can't pull one up at this minute.
Wesley '2 Play' Johnson has been perfecting his passion for mixed martial arts and is now a professional Cage Fighter.
@BDD:@George Ho: No, I wouldn't have considered it WP:POINTY, though now George listing is better. I was asking because although I was aware of WP:STAGENAME, what the example says is only:
a contracted version of the original first name(s) in quotes between first and last name. For example: Bill Clinton, not William "Bill" Clinton.
You cut off the quote too early. "Notable distinctions can be explained in the article, but avoid (for example) adding a nickname... in quotes between first and last name." --BDD (talk) 05:15, 21 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
...There are too many alternative names, and proposing them here would get in the way. I would suggest wait until this proposal closes. --George Ho (talk) 04:19, 21 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
What's the advantage of that? Let's get it over with. But it can't stay at Wesley Johnson (entertainer) for one simple reason, he isn't known as a musician as Wesley Johnson, Wesley Johnson is his fighter name. In print sources he is notable only as 2Play:
Billboard - 2004
GameAxis Unwired - 2005
The Downloader's Music Source Book 2005
India Today International 2004 "His first single with 2Play, "So Confused", went as high as number four on the British charts.
I would support moving to just 2Play. There are some other uses of the name "2play" out there, mostly internet gaming sites, but we don't cover these and the general gaming concept is covered by a hatnote here already. In any case, "entertainer" is not a good fit for a competitive martial artist for a number of reasons, regardless of this person's other work. 168.12.253.66 (talk) 14:34, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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