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2b2t has been listed as one of the Video games good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassessit.

Article milestones Date Process Result March 23, 2017 Miscellany for deletion Deleted October 18, 2020 Good article nominee Listed October 27, 2020 Peer review Reviewed January 7, 2023 Good article reassessment Kept Afact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on November 12, 2020. The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that 2b2t, a no-rules Minecraft multiplayer server running since 2010, has seen more than 510,000 distinct Minecraft players join and explore its eight-terabyte map (pictured)? Current status: Good article

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Section sizes Section size for 2b2t (11 sections) Section name Byte count Section total (Top) 2,371 2,371 History 15 16,357 2010–2016: Founding and early history 5,468 5,468 2016–present: Player influx 4,001 4,001 2018–2021: Nocom exploit 5,406 5,406 2023: Update to 1.19 1,467 1,467 Culture 7,041 7,041 Reception 8,982 8,982 Renders 844 844 References 30 30 External links 366 366 Total 35,991 35,991 Daily pageviews of this article A graph should have been displayed here but graphs are temporarily disabled. Until they are enabled again, visit the interactive graph at pageviews.wmcloud.org The following Wikipedia contributor has declared a personal or professional connection to the subject of this article. Relevant policies and guidelines may include conflict of interest, autobiography, and neutral point of view. Leijurv (talk · contribs) This user has declared a connection. (The PCGamer article about Nocom extensively quotes my explanation and cites me for it (as "leijurv"). So, I have a COI with anything relating to Nocom, but no COI with the server itself.)

The following references may be useful when improving this article in the future: Eve, Martin Paul (December 15, 2021). "Original Pirate Material". Warez: The Infrastructure and Aesthetics of Piracy. Brooklyn, NY: Punctum Books. pp. 45–46. doi:10.53288/0339.1.00. ISBN 9781685710361. OL 35740478M.

2b2t[edit]

Article (edit | visual edit | history) · Article talk (edit | history) · Watch • Watch article reassessment page • Most recent review

Result: Kept. Clear consensus that concerns have been addressed. czar 08:43, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is the "context" template at the top of the article, saying that it provides insufficient context for those unfamiliar with the subject. So, I believe that the article now fails the GA criteria. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 15:43, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Also, the reviewer, No Great Shaker, was blocked. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 16:05, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. It appears NGS performed a good-faith and normal review. His block was not due to incompetence but rather sockpuppetry, which is unlikely to impact the quality of a GAN review he did. So I'm not convinced that this particular complaint is a problem. SnowFire (talk) 23:29, 20 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• I think sufficient context is provided, and some edits have been made to the lede since then. I think the maintenance template can be removed. "2b2t is a Minecraft server" is as simple as it gets, with the link to Minecraft server. If someone doesn't know what Minecraft is, or what a multiplayer game server is, they can and should simply click the links. Specific terms like "griefing" and "hacking" now have explanations in footnotes or parentheticals. @Trivialist: Are there further concerns about insufficient context? Leijurv (talk) 00:22, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment - Gave the article a skim, and maybe my two cents isn't worth much, but I honestly probably wouldn't pass a GAN that uses so much direct quotation. It's kind of jarring to read; is there any reason these couldn't be paraphrased in prose, especially the two quote blocks down in Reception? ~Bluecrystal004 ^{(talk · contribs)} 01:00, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - Going off of @Bluecrystal004's comment, I would say that the main "issue" with the article is the block quotes, which could probably be broken up or paraphrased for a smoother reading. Otherwise, after skimming through the article, I think it does a pretty good job at explaining such a niche corner of gaming culture. Johnson524 (Talk!) 03:24, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Johnson524. SMBMovieFan (talk) 01:38, 20 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This user was blocked as a sockpuppet. See WP:STRIKESOCK. Pizzaplayer219^Talk_Contribs 01:08, 17 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

So? The user was on Wikipedia for 8 years according to his profile before he got blocked, just because the user got blocked, doesn't mean the article is bad. TomMasterReal^TALK 00:27, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@TomMasterReal I think you may be confused. SMBMovieFan has been blocked a sock of TzarN64. Pizzaplayer has struck SMBMovieFan's comment, because as a sockpuppet of a blocked user, SMB has no right to contribute to any community discussion. Pizzaplayer is not making any comment on the quality of the article. TzarN64 only started contributing in 2022, so I'm not sure where you get the impression that they were an 8-year contributor prior to being blocked for socking. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 16:48, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That's my fault, I thought you guys were talking about the person who got the article to be a GA. The guy who got 2b2t to be a GA was on Wikipedia for 8 years before he got blocked. Sorry about that. TomMasterReal^TALK 17:22, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not to be super pedantic, but No Great Shaker was just the reviewer. Leijurv is the one who did the work to get the article to GA, and they're still around and in good standing. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 17:30, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the compliment, but I must defer to Melofors who did way more work than me on improving 2b2t to GA. :) Leijurv (talk) 22:52, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. Wandering in here as I'm toddling through the old community GARs. I rewrote the lead a bit, mostly reordering things a bit and incorporating the content that was in the efns into the prose. I intend to start paraphrasing the block quotes into prose next. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 04:10, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Right - blockquotes have now been integrated and/or removed. The earlier two were easier to integrate, while the latter two were removed almost wholesale as they added little to the article that a paraphrase could not. I'm now satisfied that it should be kept as a GA (although I don't love the logo section, especially as it has CN tag). ♠PMC♠ (talk) 04:35, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  I've decided to boldly removed the logo section. It was not present when the article passed GA and was only added in December last year. Steelkamp (talk) 16:38, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. Original nominator's concerns have been addressed adequately by Leijurv. The problem with excessive use of quotes has been fixed. The uncited logo section has been removed. There are no other apparent problems with the article. Steelkamp (talk) 16:41, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Minecraft server 2b2t is updated to Minecraft Java Edition 1.16.?? Донбасс редактор (talk) 06:42, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

With 2b2t's recent 1.19 version update, several changes have been made to the server that I believe disqualifies it as an anarchy server, including but not limited to a "soft economy reset" (several key items used in the server removed or reduced), removal of duplication, and several anticheat updates. An anarchy server is defined as a server without rules, and I personally think these changes disqualify it from that status. Iamstillqw3rty (talk) 04:51, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah. This is a big deal and definitely needs to be in the article. We can't add it until there is a WP:RS. To some extent, we can perhaps cite the 2b2t.org website with WP:SELFSOURCE, but I'm hesitant and unsure about matching some of the conditions of WP:SELFSOURCE, let alone all of them, for such a large change. 2b2t is an anarchy server (no rules, no resets)... or it was. That's a huge change and I really wish a real WP:RS would write about it. Let's give it some time to see if that happens. If no actual news site writes about it, then we'll have another discussion I guess. Leijurv (talk) 05:08, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. this should be changed. WikipediaNeko (talk) 05:54, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Going to change description though, as it says "no rules", and this is obviously not true. WikipediaNeko (talk) 05:56, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Recent changes do officaly make it no longer anarchy under normal terms as of the server no longer allows exploits that impact other players like duping.

And Temp Bans are offical now so bans may occur Wizzardkitty (talk) 07:10, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Recent Developments should put this on hold. If at least items are reverted it would technically can be a full on anarchy server again. It seeks likely tho that removing anarchy classification might not be needed. Wizzardkitty (talk) 06:22, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Recent developments make this no longer necessary. 2b2t can be considered anarchy again. Wizzardkitty (talk) 19:49, 25 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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2A02:3035:80F:E59F:1:0:82B5:78FC (talk) 20:35, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The Server also added Rules in 2023 turning it from an Anarchy Server to a Survival Multiplayer Server

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —⁠PlanetJuice (talk • contribs) 22:53, 19 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]