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umm so what was his greatest accomplishment?
He was the first leader of a sovereign Mexican government. Its hard to overestimate the significance of that. How different is he than who Washington would have been in U.S. history had he acceded to the demands of many around him to have proclaimed himself a monarch (other than Washington didn't start the Revolution by being on George III's side and then switching)?
I totally agree with you, he was just a lucky enough person who was there at the right place, at the right time. Agustin de Iturbide's descendants have no constitutional claim on Mexico whatsoever, they are the descendants of a commoner who crowned himself Emperor, but did not even last a year in this position. The site of the Imperial House of Mexico is very distorted.
Commoner birth is less important than some sort of following. If such a following exists in signifigant number it should be mentioned. After all Napoleon's descendent succeeded him and thus his line was very important despite not being royal or of French aristocracy.
A King for a Day sires a perpetual royal family. OK, he was named emperor on the street by some soldiers. He was emperor for a few months. What is pathetic is that his descendants still claim to be blue-blooded. There are still some around in the U. S. and Australia devoting their lives to let others know they are princes and princesses. I think that's quite pathetic. A king for a day makes a perpetual "royal" family. Pathetic. More even so that no one in Mexico knows about this family. Just remember *THAT* Mexico included California, Texas, Nevada, New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, and more -- [[User:|User:]] 16:29, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
--- Iturbide is the analog of what Washington was to the U.S. He wasn't "lucky to be there", he was the sole author of the Mexican Independence, as the Insurgents had no means to achieve it anymore. He is the true father of the nation and he gave the country the name of México and it's banner. His legacy lives on the Mexican colors, the nation's name and the fact that it is an independent nation. I'd advise you to please read about a subject (and consult more than children's elementary history book) before commenting on such matters. Also, his descendants are merely that, his descendants. They have made their life, each and every one of them independently to whatever claim they could have to a Mexican throne. I don't see how it is fit of you to slander them. Questioning Iturbide's importance to México is the same as questioning Washington's importance to the U.S.A: Without them, the countries would simply not exist, at least who we know them. 189.187.48.132 (talk) 23:29, 14 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think the succession box is appropriate, at least as currently, and think we'd be better off without it. Certainly he was neither immediately preceeded nor succeeded by anyone else with the title of "Emperor of Mexico". I suppose we could have some sort of "leaders of Mexico" listing; perhaps being preceeded by the Viceroys? -- Infrogmation 16:42, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I propose chaning the title of the page to either "Agustin I of Mexico" or, using the English translation, "Augustus I of Mexico". Seeing as he was a monarch, no matter short of a period, the title should be changed to reflect his official final title. Hell, Louis XVII of France reigned for only a couple years, and that was as a child, but his page uses his official title. Iturbide was sworn in as Emperor in an official ceremony. He has as much legitimacy as any other monarchs to have the page title changed to reflect this. -Alex, 12.203.168.7 20:17, 13 April 2006 (UTC).[reply]
The guy is best known as "Iturbide," not『Agustín I,』and naming conventions should not be a suicide pact. This is how he is best known, he was emperor for only a couple of months, and here he should stay. john k (talk) 06:04, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
As there is an accent on the “i” in his first name, shouldn’t there also be one on the “u” in his family name: Agustín de Itúrbide? (Compare the article on his grandson, Salvador de Itúrbide.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.47.242.160 (talk) 12:51, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yay, an article I started in 2002 just got featured on the front page as a new article! LOL. Thanks to all who've improved it in the years since! Happily, -- Infrogmation (talk) 02:20, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In the sentence below, "castizo" should be turned into "mestizo".
"... the union of a castizo (one with 1/4 Amerindian ancestry) ...."
Also, perhaps we need a reference for the definition of "mestizo". It's not clear that mestizo must be 1/4th Amerindian as opposed to 1/2. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.35.116.239 (talk) 17:57, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
This article is good but I feel that it could mention data often overlooked about Iturbide. History's compromise is to the truth. Iturbide is the one and only father of Mexican Independence. He, and only he spearheaded the movement which (after 11 years of unsuccessful, bloody war) was largely peaceful and bloodless. Only he realized the importance of uniting royalists and insurgent interests. For decades, the interest of the reining government in Mexico led to him being discredited as an arch-villain comparable to the devil himself in official history books, but the historical documents and data from that time point to another conclusion. Stick with me, I provide source at the end. I wholeheartedly urge you to let me add these to the page. I only wish for the memory of our nation's father to be well-represented, and I know that english wikipedia is by far more consulted and truthful.
These are the additions or corrections I propose to make to this article:
"12 º. Todos los habitantes de la nueva España, sin distinción alguna de Europeos, Africanos, ni Indios, son Ciudadanos de esta Monarquía con opción a todo empleo, según su mérito y virtudes."
Translated by me as: "12º. All the inhabitants of New Spain, without making any distinction between Europeans, Africans or Indians (understood here as native americans or native mexicans), are citizens of this monarchy, capable of choosing any job, in accordance to their merits and virtues".
This, taken from a transcript of the Plan of Iguala, published here: http://guerrero.gob.mx/articulos/plan-de-iguala/
A clarification on this point is also needed. A caudillo is a military leader who gains political power, and not necessarily a dictator.
These points are all taken from Armando Fuentes Aguirre's book: "La Otra Historia de México: Hidalgo e Iturbide. La Gloria y el Olvido". Fuentes Aguirre, known in México as『Catón』is a very well respected and acclaimed journalist. His series: "La Otra Historia de México", comprises 4 books, ranging from the Mexican war for Independence to the Porfiriato, and it has been critically acclaimed. The author himself quotes testimonies of the day, diaries, transcripts of official documents, letters and newspaper articles, personal correspondence, etc.
I present these changes for review so that Wikipedia may authorize them. 189.187.48.132 (talk) 23:29, 14 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
In the section "Dissolution of Congress", it is stated that Guadalupe Bocanegra was one of the leaders who oppossed Iturbide in 1822. However, that seems impossible, given that she was executed in 1817. Perhaps the author meant Jose María Bocanegra instead? 213.0.53.142 (talk) 08:11, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Please see Talk:Mexican War of Independence#Confusion Peter Horn User talk 22:35, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]