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Talk:Alvin C. Graves

Alvin C. Graves has been listed as one of the Natural sciences good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it. Review: October 17, 2014. (Reviewed version).

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A fact from Alvin C. Graves appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 25 October 2014 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows: Did you know... that Alvin C. Graves was badly injured in the 1946 laboratory criticality accident at Los Alamos that killed Louis Slotin? A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2014/October. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Alvin C. Graves.

The final paragraph of the article reads:

"Ironically, despite Graves' strident dismissal of the dangers of radiation to others, he could not escape the consequences of his own exposure, which had shortened his lifespan measurably (as is now known to be a consequence of large, survivable doses of radiation). He died of a heart attack in 1965, 20 years after the accident, at the age of 54. A follow-up study in 1978 indicated that his death was likely caused by latent heart damage resulting from his radiation exposure in 1946.[7]"

I, for one, am not aware of any medical conclusion about subterminal radiation shortening life as a statistical norm. People die from heart attacks at 54 without radiation playing any part. This claim is reiterated in the last sentence, but the stated "follow-up study" is reported in the New York Times, which merely states the same thing the article does. One would think a medical report or journal would be the proper source for this, not a third hand source.

I'll edit the paragraph unless someone speaks up to support it within a month. SkoreKeep (talk) 07:22, 29 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well, that's better. Much more POV neutral, IMO. And I learned a bunch about the two main sources, Fradkin and Welsome, both very good journalists. Death was heart attack brought on by high cholesterol for a long period, which MAY have been caused by systemic problems and may also have been genetic, as his father died of the same. He took a high dose. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SkoreKeep (talk • contribs) 18:10, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Alvin C. Graves/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Peacemaker67 (talk · contribs) 01:49, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Rate	Attribute	Review Comment
1. Well-written:
	1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.	Compton replied that he wcould Fermi, not explained, should be linked the suicide squad thing needs a bit more explanation, would the cadmium salts stop the chain reaction? Why suicide squad? was seven months pregnant Graves therefore requested link Roentgen (unit)? working and skiing Graves became dismissive of the radiation risks from nuclear testing; while serving as test director for the Nevada Test Site shots during the 1950s. I would say the semi-colon could be dispensed with. Should the period in weak malingerers." should be after the quotation mark? hewould speakspoke most of the Aatomic tests suggest A 1978 follow-up study all points addressed
	1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.	Given the fact that the accident killed someone and made him very sick for a while, I think it should be mentioned in the lead. addressed.
2. Verifiable with no original research:
	2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
	2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).
	2c. it contains no original research.
3. Broad in its coverage:
	3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.
	3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
	4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
	5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
	6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.
	6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
	7. Overall assessment.	On hold for seven days, a few prose comments that need to be addressed. Otherwise, great article. Passing.

• All points addressed. Hawkeye7 (talk) 04:26, 17 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Anybody else feel squicky about posting on the internet that some dead guy had a zero semen count? Anniepoo (talk) 15:20, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Just the facts, M'am, just the facts." It was a temporary condition; he later became the father of a healthy son. SkoreKeep (talk) 02:27, 26 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"zero semen count". Shouldn't this be zero sperm count? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.225.57.56 (talk) 18:03, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, probably. Semens don't count but sperms do. Fixed. SkoreKeep (talk) 22:34, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]