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Sakura Hime Kaden was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 22 January 2009 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Arina Tanemura. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.
I re-arranged the Works section, so that they are all now in a table. I personally think it looks better this way and makes more sense than the random dashes system that was going on before. If the consensus is otherwise though, feel free to change it back. Kelakagandy (talk) 09:13, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Added a table for one-shots also. They're not in any order, since I don't know dates on some of them. Though the later ones are mostly in order, I think. Kelakagandy (talk) 03:00, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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All I could find was that this CD was a magazine gift with the December 2004 issue of Ribon and also had an audio drama with Cactus's Secret. As with most Japanese sources, anything before 2010 is difficult to find on the Internet due to Japanese news sites removing old articles or preferring print media. The issue is currently out of print and Ribon's website detailing the magazine gift failed to be archived properly. lullabying (talk) 22:45, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The second sentence of "early life", as written, seems self-contradictory; if the television had anime, that was still surely a form of entertainment?
The interview says that her main source of entertainment was through reading manga, and since she lived in Aichi, she wasn't able to watch a lot of anime since her area mostly showed re-runs. lullabying (talk) 06:33, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"she had passed the first round of submissions" I'm uncertain as to what this means; I think you're saying she passed the first round of selection, but it's a bit unclear.
That's still unclear. If I were to draw every day, the number of pages I draw would increase. Unless you're talking about daily practice, the second part of that sentence is redundant.
This is the original text from her interview: でも、「まずはつけペンに慣れなきゃ」「修行しなきゃ」と思って、長いストーリーではなく、4コマを投稿し始めたんですよ。そしたら賞をいただいて。4コマ部門は5ページくらいで投稿できるんですけど、最初に投稿した作品で結構な賞金をもらえちゃったんです。「5ページでこんなに賞金をもらうわけにはいかない」と思って、16ページ・32本くらいの4コマを投稿していました。そこでギャグを描くのが楽しくなりましたね。 I decided to remove the text as it does seem unclear. lullabying (talk) 21:32, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"Despite being published in a separate edition" does "edition" have a specific meaning with respect to manga? Otherwise, I think "supplement" or "special issue" is the term you are looking for.
The first paragraph of "career" also sounds somewhat inconsistent; if "The Style of the Second Love" brought her early fame, why is it that the ION is referred to as her breakthrough work? If ION was a bigger breakthrough, then surely there ought to be more details substantiating that?
"The Style of the Second Love" was her debut work and she got positive feedback from it. But I.O.N was popular enough to become her first multi-chapter story. lullabying (talk) 06:36, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Do you have a source saying that? If so, please say that instead; I would omit the "breakthrough" label.
I would omit that detail, then, or if you are keen on it, make it clear that she said that in an interview, and didn't give the reason. Vanamonde (Talk)16:10, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
What is it about "Full Moon o Sagashite" that allowed Tanemura to write lyrics? It is unclear at the moment.
Full Moon o Sagashite is a story about idol singers, and she started the series out of a desire to write lyrics for the songs her characters would sing. Tanemura is also known to be a huge idol singer fan, though I'm not sure how relevant that is to the article. lullabying (talk) 19:56, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"intentionally gave the story a different tone compared to The Gentlemen's Alliance Cross" Unless you have information about how the tone was different, I'd omit this; it doesn't really tell the reader anything.
"In November 2011, Tanemura departed from Ribon" At no point has the article made it clear she worked for Ribon; if this is the default model for manga, it's still unclear to people unfamiliar with the industry.
An interview isn't good enough for the statement "and she drew according to trends she believes are fashionably popular at that time, resulting in her unique art style". Unless you can find a source saying that directly, I would paraphrase this to something like "she tries to reflect contemporary styles in her drawing", or something similar, but simple.
The list of works is rather long; it's taking up more space than the prose section of the article. I would recommend either splitting this off into a "list of works" article, or just pruning this down to her best known works. The full list doesn't really belong here. This is the case for most prolific authors, just so you know; see, for instance, Ursula K. Le Guin, which I brought to FA some months ago.
All her works are not notable, that's my point. A very small fraction of authors are notable enough that all their works meet WP:N. The list is notable, but it belongs as a standalone. This is particularly true because Tanemura is young, and her list will presumably grow. If you don't, someone else is likely to split the list off; if not, I would expect the article would fail criterion 3b fairly soon. I'm not going to fail it over this now, but please take this point seriously. Vanamonde (Talk)16:54, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The lead, at the moment, is too much of a list of her publications, and not really a summary of the article. I'd suggest trimming it a little, since the article is also short, and then adding a sentence or two about her style and characters. You could also replace some of the stuff about her publications with a sentence about other activities she has done.
Done I tried to remove info about less notable series and included one more source/feedback about the main themes of her work, which I had also integrated into the lead. lullabying (talk) 21:18, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Substance-wise, the lead is a lot better now. I'm still a little concerned that its language is on the flowery side. Your reworking of the artistry section was great; could you take another look at the lead?
I'm a little concerned about the heavy use of interviews in the early part of the article. Interviews are essentially primary sources; they are okay for strictly non-contentious material; but for things like the school competition, they're a little questionable. At the very least, you need to make an effort to find better sources; if they are not available, the wording may have to be adjusted to make it clear that Tanemura is the only source for that information.
I rephrased some statements in the early life section and made sure to clarify that these statements were made by her. As far as the contest goes, she did not disclose which publisher it was for. lullabying (talk) 23:19, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
In general, the article is a little thin on details besides when she published which title. It isn't low enough to fail it; but I'd be a lot happier if you could look through sources again to see if you've really included all the biographical information you can. Even basic things like where she lives, where she went to school, and whether she went to college, are currently missing. I will let you work on these comments, and return when you've finished with them; please ping me when you've done so.
Japanese people are kind of touchy about keeping their privacy so they usually won't reveal information about where they went to school and such. Even then, most Japanese manga artists use pseudonyms and do not disclose private information about themselves. lullabying (talk) 19:59, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That's as may be; we just need to do our best to include all the information available in reliable sources. At the moment, I suspect you could find a little more; I might be wrong. Vanamonde (Talk)21:09, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
She started working for Ribon when she was 18, so I don't believe she went to college, and there's never been any mention of it. Also, information about primary/secondary schools are usually kept private. lullabying (talk) 21:35, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The last sentence of "artistry and themes" seems out of place to me. I'd omit it altogether; it really belongs in the article about that artist, as it's only tangentially about Tanemura.
@Lullabying: Most issues seem to have been fixed and the article is close to GA status, I think, but there's a couple of replies and a couple of outstanding points for you to look at. Vanamonde (Talk)19:06, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Done This information has been included. lullabying (talk) 21:44, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
