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Talk:Atwater Village, Los Angeles

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Why edit out anything about gentrification[edit]

Why edit this out, it's not like it's not true, gentrification is severely affecting the neighborhood as we speak we can't have mention of it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AlphaNumerical1 (talk • contribs) 22:49, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you find anything regarding the subject in WP:Reliable sources, just put it in the story with a note on where you got it. GeorgeLouis (talk) 19:27, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

We can't use WP:Original research in Wikipedia. If I am not mistaken (maybe I am), there is a WP:Consensus to base the Los Angeles County neighborhood population figures on Mapping L.A., which is a WP:Reliable source] that has compiled the population for each neighborhood, census tract by census tract. This consensus also allows for us to compare one neighborhood with another based on the same statistics. But mostly it is a matter that we just don't do Original research here. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 13:40, 18 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I realized it was afterwards, I was just about to change it, now I just cited some census tract information from the census. (AlphaNumerical1 (talk) 15:00, 18 April 2015 (UTC))[reply]

Thanks for your interest in this historic L.A. neighborhood. I don't want to be WP:Tendentious, but citing directly from the census records is WP:Original research. If you think that the census figures done by the L.A. Times research staff (after a great deal of community input) are wrong, or outdated, then you should take up the problem with the Times editors. (It's time they were pressured into updating Mapping L.A.) I don't want to engage in an WP:Edit war, so I am asking that you self-revert and remove these statistics, even though I know you put a lot of work into them. I don't expect you to do this right away because you should really check the WP:Policy, which states, in summation, "Wikipedia does not publish original thought: all material in Wikipedia must be attributable to a reliable, published source. Articles may not contain any new analysis or synthesis of published material that serves to reach or imply a conclusion not clearly stated by the sources themselves." The definition of a reliable source is later on that page, in this section. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 16:01, 18 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It's not really original research now, census records are reliable sources and not my original research, I'm not making estimates based on the census records I'm posting the census data for the census tracts in the neighborhood, they had 2010 census tract data in ((Echo Park)) for a while now so there is precedent. AlphaNumerical1 (talk) 12:01, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it doesn't make that much difference to me right now. I think we can use it, with a little modification, which I will do and I hope you will accept. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 17:05, 29 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the following comment, which was added on 21:21, 1 February 2016‎ by 2602:30a:c0e7:60c0:b9d6:ee06:dce7:a271 (talk):

If the reference is re: the substation located at the end of Silverlake Bl. and Hollydale, this site was a trailer court in the 1940's and early into the 50's. I delivered newspapers by bicycle from age 13 until 16 (1951) for the Herald Examiner paper. I don't remember when the trailer court was demo'ed for the construction of the substation.

This is a personal memory and thus unverifiable, not to mention being written in an unencyclopedic first-person tone. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 15:10, 15 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]