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Why does the image under the Sport heading of an Australian Football League match show the Indian Australian Football League team playing against the New Zealand Australian Football League team ? Isn't this article about relations between Australia and New Zealand ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.162.28.15 (talk) 00:10, 19 May 2012 (UTC) I have tagged:[reply]
as Dubious. I believe a citation needed for date of NZ decision - although they weren't signing up I understand NZ wanted to keep options open which is a slightly different sense than that conveyed by the article.--Matilda talk 20:17, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Am modifying this statement from the political union section. "The distance between Wellington, New Zealand and Sydney, Australia, is 1,378 miles (2,218 km), making it seem even more obvious of Hall's remark." Irrelevant, as the capital of Australia at the time was Melbourne, and that was the context that this was refered to in. Nudge67 (talk) 12:36, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The sentence "Children born to Australians in New Zealand are granted New Zealand citizenship by birth as well as Australian citizenship by descent.[50]" references "NYT NZ fury" which does not mention getting Australian citizenship by descent. Children born to Australian parents while outside Australia on or after January the 26th of January 1949 are entitled to apply for Australian citizen, the home affairs and immigration website discusses this, I will update the article to refer to it. https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/citizenship/become-a-citizen/by-descent — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chris James Hall (talk • contribs) 08:55, 19 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I have marked the claim regarding Australians receiving New Zealand social security after two years as 'citation needed', as the original citation "NYT NZ fury" did not mention this.
--Matilda talk 01:57, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The statement in the lead section The relationship between Australia and New Zealand is somewhat similar to that of other small countries with their much larger or more influential neighbour, i find, is a little bias, whos to say that one nation has more influene of eachother in the case of NZ and AUS, larger neighbour is a given, but more influential not so much. Some could say that NZ has had a much larger influence, i.e. giving women the vote, going nuclear free, Edmund Hillary, Earnest Rutherford, New Zealands position in Pacific Island nations, Fonterra, NZ-China FTA and even LOTR! These things dont mean anything to the way NZ and AUS relate to eachother and i dont think its fair to include that statement in the lead section, or anywhere for that matter. Taifarious1 02:56, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The reference only supports the last sentence. The lead of Canada – United States relations is perhaps a useful comparison:The relationship between Australia and New Zealand is somewhat similar to that of other small countries with their much larger or more influential neighbour, such as Canada and the United States, although this is modified by the fact that Australia and New Zealand are both middle powers as far as global affairs are concerned. Some have defined the relationship as less one of friendship than of brotherhood, beset by sibling rivalry.[1]
I propose to remove the offending words and, borrowing from Canada – United States relations rewite as:Canada – United States relations span more than two centuries, marked by a shared British colonial heritage, conflict during the early years of the U.S., and the eventual development of one of the most successful international relationships in the modern world. The most serious breach in the relationship was the War of 1812, which saw American invasion attempts on then British North America. Friendship would be solidified in the 20th century with the shared experience of the world wars and a close alliance during the Cold War.
--Matilda talk 06:36, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]The relationship between Australia and New Zealand is somewhat similar to that of other neighbouring countries with a countries with a shared British colonial heritage, such as Canada and the United States. Some have defined the relationship as less one of friendship than of brotherhood, beset by sibling rivalry.[1]</
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Should the sentence: The only major exception to these privileges is for individuals with outstanding warrants or criminal backgrounds deemed dangerous or undesirable for the migrant nation and its citizens. be under the 'intra-migration' section, it seems a bit useless to be in the lead section and has no bearing on the relationship as a whole. Taifarious1 05:23, 12 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sundaystartimes/4134551a26503.html from New Zealand's Sunday Star Times --Matilda talk 22:40, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
As the existence of the first have no bearing on the quality of the last. The dimensions of relations would be, say .. commerce, diplomacy, sport, war (with each other, or as a joint enterprise), cultural exchange. 'Commonalities' may be a dimension of 'relations', but there is not a common currency. I will remove the 'sim' and 'diff' and work to include reference to entities which cover both nations eg. medical specialist bodies which offer accreditation or registration for specialists from either —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mestmaster (talk • contribs) 14:07, 10 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
These are added as external links and proposed as wealthy sources of information for the further development of the article. In other words, the official government 'take' on the relationship and significance of each country to each other, from either's perspective.—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]])
CERprophet (talk) 06:56, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"Differences: The European population of Australia from early times contained a large Irish Catholic minority, many of whom were hostile to the British overclass, in comparison to New Zealand which was largely settled by English and Scots loyal to the British Crown. This resulted in some significant differences in attitude to authority; New Zealand never had an equivalent to the Eureka Stockade[citation needed] revolt, and republicanism has been less of an issue than in Australia. In this respect, as well as in stereotypes (see below), the differences between New Zealand and Australia resemble those between Canada and the United States, respectively."
Questions, questions: What British overclass was this, the Hollywood version? What was the attitude of the working class people in OZ from England, Scotland etc. How did they feel about the overclass? Did convicts transported from other parts of the British Isles like the overclass? Over in NZ what about the Scots who left home after the Clearances? And the comparison with the US, did the widely discriminated against Irish feel at home in the US republic when they got there? Bah! The section is a parade of stereotypes thrown together by a folk nationalist. Hakluyt bean (talk) 00:06, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps this should be mentioned, also there was recently another mention for political union: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/contributors/join-oz-new-zealand--its-for-the-best-20091112-ib8r.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.109.90.38 (talk) 07:23, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
the statement that new zealanders can receive welfare benefits after living in australia for two years is incorrect and has been for a few years. New Zealanders must obtain an australian permanent resident visa to receive welfare benefits and must apply for this in the same manner as any other country. This is in addition to the 2 year waiting peroid that still remains. Source http://www.centrelink.gov.au/internet/internet.nsf/factors/nz_policy.htm 121.74.243.92 (talk) 08:55, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"Why should Australia always go first?" is a compelling question. One answer is that it usually goes first in things like ANZAC, ANZCERTA, Aus-NZ Food Authority, SANZAR, and everywhere that the distinction can be made on List of Australia-New Zealand-related articles. Australia shouldn't always go first. It should only go first in published names and agreements such as the examples already given. Otherwise New Zealand can go first, or Australia. Being first named is being first thought of, but not being more important because neither is more important in the explanation of this subject matter. It wasn't an Australian who first successfully made it to the top of the world's highest mountain, it was a New Zealander and a Nepali working together . —Preceding unsigned comment added by Popecreator (talk • contribs) 06:48, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
this was raised a short time a go the preference should be in all cases to follow alpabetical precedence in all cases where there is no clear distinction e.g. mount everast new zealand should go first, this allows for simplicity and reduces the potential for edit wars where ppl keep moving back and forth based on ideological grounds.
for reference i am australian
Digmores (talk) 08:03, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
was just reading over it in greater detail and it tends to flip between australia-new zealand to new zealand-australia without context.
we should go one way or the other thoughts
Digmores (talk) 08:09, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This article was a GA nominee - see - 04:07, 19 December 2010 (UTC)|nominator=Thoroughgoodness (talk)|page=1|subtopic=Politics and government|status=|note=
Note: the nominee http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Thoroughgoodness and subsequent socks who have worked on this article are socks of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DavidYork71 - SatuSuro 07:24, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In the 'Gallery' section there is a picture with the caption 'Warmongering propaganda urging men from the British Dominions to enlist in the Great War (1915)'.
I take issue with the use of the pejorative (and subjective) term 'warmongering', and feel it should be omitted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.6.179.122 (talk) 13:52, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I am going to remove this as a good article nomination. It was nominated by a banned user and so any comments are not likely to be replied to. If another editor believes that it could be a good article they can renominate. I would remove some of the pictures first though. AIRcorn (talk) 05:22, 31 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Germany–Japan relations is an article of same type (ie. bilateral relations of counterpart countries) to have achieved WP:GA status in WP:FOR. France–New Zealand relationsisB-class. They are the models for this article to ascend the quality scale. This article already compares as better than the France-NZ one. It is substantially deeper in its treatment of sport, military, currency/monetary/economy, exploration, sport, diplomacy, trade, telecommunications, migration and history. It also treats politics and law. It has more and a greater diversity of source references and it also acknowledges that things go further back than just the beginning of World War I (try up to 130 million years). It is fantastically illustrated in comparison. Who then cares that it doesn't incorporate lengthening lists of visits by delegates and ministers in recent years? Promote it.Sayazakardalamdubursaya (talk) 14:41, 30 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Are the edits good enough to WP:IAR and allow some of the reverted edits[3] to remain in the article? Not too bothered about the minor wikilinking, but there are some substantial referenced sections there. AIRcorn (talk) 07:54, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi,
A large number of the pictures on this page seem to not match their legend ( e.g. A picture of the SKA being lengened as Russell Crow).
From my reading of the article it seems to links to the pictures have been moved, as the legends make sense in the context of the article, but the pictures do not.
116.89.107.12 (talk) 03:39, 21 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
There's been 30 years of CER and now there's a report which is the driving force for the agenda of the next 30 years of CER. This report had a small para (one or two sentences) when it was a foreshadowed thing. Now it's a real thing and it's not just a review of a small corner or subsection of the A-NZ relationship (like just the aviation market, or just rules of origin), it's encompasses the whole box and dice to try and do just about everything short of the attempted NZ inclusion into Federation in 1900 and monetary union pipe dream. It warrants the expanded coverage, for example, initiating changes to how CER will be managed + outcomes monitored and reported on. It's additionally leading the way to student loans for kiwis in Australia, Aus permanent residence and citizenship for some of the buggers too, and the novation of the trans-Tasman tourist visa. It's a deeply considered, wideranging, much-heralded, (formerly) eagerly-anticipated report. If I could nominate a more significant overview upon the A-NZ relationship I might only say the ANZCERTA itself, but to be fair, that differentiates itself as an Agreement/Treaty.Rotoruan (talk) 09:22, 17 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
because it really is very biased towards NZ. Oh, and Steve Price did not play in the 2008 RLWC final.Theodore D (talk) 05:00, 29 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I tend to agree and will see if other versions show a bit more balance — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.120.18.134 (talk) 06:14, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Bit of a dunce on the overall subject matter here, but looking further into [4], a lot of useful and more detailed and up-to-date perspectives have been lost:
The more expansive version is better because rather than someone calling it out for 'biased toward NZ', it's tone and style was for the introduction of non-Australians and non-NZers to understand the subject — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.120.18.134 (talk) 03:44, 22 August 2014 (UTC) Korfball stays or I quit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.120.18.136 (talk) 03:36, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
pls change photo. It's now turnbull not abbott — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Syndic8 (talk • contribs) 04:44, 31 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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