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I think it would be fun to list every character associated with the Initiative, perhaps as a separate article: "List of The Initiative members." That first cover alone makes it fun to try to list them all. - Darkhawk
Is there an actual comic reference for this? I have seen this mentioned elsewhere, but in the actual comic books I have only seen characters mention "one team per state". I know it's nitpicky, but it could mean the difference between a list of 50 super teams or thousands. MrDenton 16:20, 5 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avengers:_The_Initiative#Characters_involved lists characters that are supposedly involved, but really only appear on the cover. A number of these characters rarely make cameo appearances and their stories are mainly in their own titles, such as Deadpool and Moon Knight. Toxin hasn't actually been seen since his mini a few years back. Like many comic book covers, this was done for the image of a bunch of heroes, not because they are all actively involved in the title. Some of them, such as Moon Knight and girl Hawkeye, aren't even registered. 75.2.29.158 18:05, 1 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I think that instead of moving the whole list perhaps someone could edit the list to include only those characters that have been "proven" to be a part of the Initiative. This would be done by listing the character and then the comic title and issue in which their involvement is confirmed. Just an idea. Jasynnash2 (talk) 13:41, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've just removed a lot of the red wikilinkage for a whle lot of characters that had no corresponding artice for them. I am a little concerned tht some of these superhero names seem to be made-up, and might in fact be a couple of contributors putting themselves and their friends in. I'd remove all the unconnected ones, but I think that's a bit harsh. I'm posting my concerns here to see what comments come out of it. If there is no significant connection by say, Sunday, I will remove them from the list and bring them here where they will be suject to connection/verification before they can be re-added. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 08:01, 21 August 2007 (UTC) I think the discussion would be easier to continue if we didn't have to scroll down over the long, removed sections, so I am putting a new section in here so discussion can continue. If an offense was given by the inclusion of this break, understadnt hat none was intended. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 17:47, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Shouldn't the Fifty State Initiative (members, teams, and potential recruits) be part of it's own article, instead of being tagged on this one? With the exclusion of the issue #1 cover, more than half of the characters confirmed being part of the Initiative listed in the removed section haven't even been mentioned (or even implied) in this series. Anyway, about the content that's actually removed, I don't know how much more citation is needed for these.
--Blue Falcon 04:06, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Based upon the link to the author listing, I think the Initiative by state seems like a good idea, with a link within this article to it (ie, for more info on Initiative teams by state, etc.) I don't think that we should mention those states without teams at all. I don't recall anymore the states of Australia, and I imagine detailing English counties would axt as the Cure to Insomnia to Americans. I imagine the reverse is true with naming all 50 states, as well as Ameri-centric.
I am glad you understoof my concernns over someone faking a hero name in, and being able to cite their inclusion is more encyclopedic and sidesteps the problem.
Ben Pancake. Cripes, they must be tired as well over at Marvel. I'm just waiting until they bring Cap back. I personally blame Iron Man for his death. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 06:24, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, well the reason why the states of Australia and English counties haven't been mentioned yet is because, at the moment, the US is the only region that has the SHRA/Initiative (or at least, one that's worth noting). Although a good portion of the Battle Damage Report does go into detail about international views relating to it (Wakanda, Israel, Japan, Attlian, Great Britain, Latveria, France, Canada, China, South America, and Atlantis). Perhaps if a new page is made, it would be appropriate to include these views as well. --Blue Falcon 15:47, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I have removed these sections from the article because there isn't any sort of citation proving that these folk arte actually involved. Someone actually just identified the characters on te cover and wrote them in the section. Its OR, and not a Good Thing. When citation happens, then maybe someof them can be re-added, but not until then.
Characters involved Among the characters confirmed as members of The Initiative are: (Note: Many characters in the list below are simply confirmed to be on the cover to Avengers: The Initiative #1, and have not been seen or mentioned within Initiative continuity)
Potential recruits Characters who not seen on cover to Avengers: The Initiative #1, and have not been seen or mentioned within Initiative continuity, but have been considered by Iron Man as a "potential recruit" for the Initiative program, according to Civil War: Battle Damage Report.
- Agent X (Jim Burley)
- Aguila
- Americop
- Annex
- Aquarian
- Ardina
- Bedlam (Bermuda Schwartz)
- Black Crow
- Blackwulf (Lucian)
- Blazing Skull
- Blind Justice
- Blindside (Bobbie Chase)
- Blistik (Victor Lillian)
- Blitziana
- Blue Shield
- Bobster (Sturdevant Robbins)
- Bounty
- Brass
- Brother Nature
- Cadaver (Cody Fleischer)
- Cain (Marvel Comics)|Cain
- Canasta (Henry Cavanaugh)
- Captain Zero (David Stack)
- Cardiac
- Catiana
- Challenger
- Chi Demon
- Clearcut
- Comet Man
- Crime-Buster (Eugene Mason)
- Crimson Daffodil
- Crippler
- Crusader (Aubrey Thompson)
- Deadhead
- Deathlok (Larry Young)
- Dementia
- D-Man
- Destroyer of Demons (Joshua Grimly)
- Devil-Slayer
- Dominic Fortune
- Dragon Lord (Tako Shamara)
- Echo
- Eleggua (Nestor Rodriguez)
- Enigma (Tara Virango)
- Fateball (Laura Broadbahr)
- Firebolt (Tony Sloan)
- Frankie and Victoria
- Freak of Science (Rico Gawren)
- Free Spirit
- Frog-Man
- Garrett, Jonathan "John"
- Geiger
- Ghost Dancer (James Owl)
- Gibbon
- Glitch (Chazz Admunson)
- Gomi
- Googam
- Gorilla Girl
- Hardnose (Alexander Patel)
- Heart Attack (Tyler Meagher)
- High-Tech
- Hit-Maker (Orlando Sinclair)
- Huntara
- Hurricane (Albert Potter)
- Hybrid
- Infamnia (Gina Morris)
- It the Living Colossus
- Junta
- Lazarus (Todd Hunter)
- Link and Poltergeist
- Living Pharaoh (Akasha Martinez)
- Living Totem (Whistle Pig)
- Machine Teen
- Magdalena (Magda Sinclair)
- Man-Eater
- Man-Elephant (Manfred Haller)
- Marvel Boy (David Bank)
- Masked Marvel
- Masked Rose (Jo Tyler)
- Mayhem
- Mechamage
- Mikado & Mosha
- Monstro the Mighty
- Mop Man (Joe Trinity)
- Neurotap
- Nocturne
- Nosferata (Purple Hayes)
- Obituary
- Payback (Eddie Dyson)
- Phantom Blonde (Wanda Mason)
- Pixie
- Portal
- Pyre (Gray Russell)
- Raving Beauty (Cheryl Gates)
- Reaper (Louis Dawson)
- Red Nine
- Ricochet
- Riot Grrl (Erika Graham)
- Ryder
- Sangre (Julia Concepcion)
- Savage Steel
- Shadow-Hunter (Niki Jakosan)
- Shriker (Jack D'auria)
- Siege
- Sleek
- Soulfire (Jason Maldonado)
- Spectra (Selena Slate)
- Speedo (Federico Wantaugh)
- Spellcheck (Ben Pancake)
- Spider-Woman (Mattie Franklin)
- Stained Glass Scarlet (Scarlet Fascinera)
- Steel Raven (Aranda Charboneau)
- Stem Cell
- Stentor
- Stepford Cuckoos
- Strongarm (Cary Armstrong)
- Suicide (Chris Daniels)
- Sunstreak (Jenny Burke)
- Sunturion
- Tailhook (Marissa Paulsen)
- Thirty-Three (Tiberius Carr)
- Thunderbolt
- Topspin
- Toxin
- Ultra-Marine (Kith Nasca)
- Vagabond
- White Fang (Elizabeth Bondi)
- White Tiger
- Winky Man (Paul Same)
- Wolf
- Wysper
- X-Cutioner
List of teams by state
- Alabama -
- Alaska -
- Arizona -
- Arkansas -
- California - The Order[2]
- Colorado - The Thunderbolts[3]
- Connecticut -
- Delaware -
- Florida -
- Georgia -
- Hawaii -
- Idaho -
- Illinois - Spaceknights[2]
- Indiana -
- Iowa - Force Works[2]
- Kansas -
- Kentucky -
- Louisiana -
- Maine -
- Maryland -
- Massachusetts -
- Michigan -
- Minnesota -
- Mississippi -
- Missouri -
- Montana -
- Nebraska - Led by Captain Ultra[4]
- Nevada -
- New Hampshire -
- New Jersey -
- New Mexico -
- New York - Mighty Avengers[3]
- North Carolina - Unnamed team based in Hickory, NC near Lenoir-Rhyne College[5]
- North Dakota -
- Ohio -
- Oklahoma -
- Oregon -
- Pennsylvania - Liberty Legion[1]
- Rhode Island - Miles Flatt and his amazing Guitar of Death. The team was originally going to be The New Slingers, but they would rather go to jail (Negative Zone Prison) than to serve in Rhode Island. [6]Due to the playful nature of the announcement, it is presumed to have been a writer´s joke.
- South Carolina -
- South Dakota -
- Tennessee -
- Texas - The Rangers[3]
- Utah - per Civil War #6, a team is known to have been formed but remains unnamed as yet. According to S.H.I.E.L.D. deputy directory Maria Hill, the Utah-based heroes are Mormons.
- Vermont -
- Virginia -
- Washington - Earth Force[7]
- West Virginia -
- Wisconsin - Great Lakes Initiative[8]
- Wyoming -
References
I am acting on Blue Falcon's previous note and removing those states not mentioned in the series. When the state gets mentioned, then we can include it. As well, I am removing the wikilinks to the American states because those links refer to real states, and not the imaginary states noted within the comic books. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 22:45, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I have created a template for the Initiative at a sandbox page. Should I go ahead and use it or should I mention at the Comics Wiki Project? Spshu (talk) 18:28, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
A separate article has been started. 204.153.84.10 (talk) 22:04, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The Mighty Avengers are not part of the Initiative, it was stated in the first issue. Rau J16 20:20, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If a recent Newsarama interview, Tom Brevoort stated that Skyhawk was the only active hero patroling Washington State. Does the list deal with all teams, or only active ones? Rau's talk 19:03, 11 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I intend to condense the plot section heavily. Expect a major edit in the coming days. Rau's Speak Page 00:06, 3 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There has been no confirmation that Crusader is deceased. He disappeared and he has a piece of the Cosmic Cube, so whoever keeps writing that he is dead and that Delroy caused his death should stifle themselves and stop going off of speculation. Timmyfitz161 (talk) 01:07, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Avengers: The Initiative/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
Rated as Future class, as it's not yet been published (that aside, it would currently be rated as a Stub). Rated as low importance - although this may need to be revised once the series is published. --Mrph 19:01, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply] |
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