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Babylonia: Persian?!, so what happened to Iraq?[edit]
So why didn't the writer say that Babylonia was completely PERSIAN?!, this includes much fatal errors and remember that you can not trust all websites of the sources you've used (writer), we can not include something from our own, the Iraqi Wikipedians must help us in this or the Iraqi history will go out like this!.
Quite probably because Persians are an Iranic Indo-European people, and Babylonians were Semites and remnants of the Sumerians that spoke a non-IE language? Just a thought. HammerFilmFan (talk) 19:01, 29 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Because Babylonia wasn't completely Persian. It continued to use Cuneiform, Aramaic, and develop Babylonian sciences. Persians didn't come en masse to Mesopotamia until 800 A.D. 64.222.113.252 (talk) 20:09, 10 March 2020 (UTC)John Dee[reply]
I seen a program on the history chanel saying that the aztecs are actualy babylonian in decent so that would mean that they are not native to america that they migrated here just like the early europeans they had to have done a blood test or something to figure this out can anyone confirm this?68.116.91.31 (talk) 02:52, 25 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The Book of Genesis, 10:10 states "The first centers of his kingdom were Babylon, Uruk, Akkad and Kalneh, in Shinar. Does this refer to "Babylonia" or "Babylon" (I believe they are the same thing).[1]Twillisjr (talk) 03:14, 24 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
No, in this instance the reference is to the city of Babylon, not the region/state of Babylonia. However, Babylon was not located in Sumer (Shinar.)
IsGnosticism the religion of Babylonians? Early Iraq is supposedly connected to this religion and a few scholarly articles do mention it as being practiced in Babylonia. Does anyone else know if this is the case and where to add it?
Not quite. If we read Gnosticism we see it properly refers to a religion that began to spread around the year 100 AD, in the eastern Roman Empire. I think there may be groups in Iraq today that were influenced by them, but it is an anachronism for Babylonia, which is going back to 500-1800 BC. Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 14:47, 2 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The one given was only accurate for some parts of American English. Rather than laundry list the variants, leave it for the Wiktionary entry and remember Wikipedia is WP:NOTADICTIONARY. We should only include pronunciations where well-meaning readers could be genuinely confused. Is there anyone who's going to read this as baby-lone-ee-AH? If so, reïnclude the IPA, but include sourcing and the "British" pronunciation with the short I which is also shared by many Americans. — LlywelynII02:57, 21 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
WP:Further reading sections are almost always a bad idea since Wikipedia doesn't have any experts curating them and they gradually and unhelpfully bloat. Kindly restore these to the article as they are used to verify points being made:
Ascalone, Enrico (2007). Mesopotamia: Assyrians, Sumerians, Babylonians. University of California Press. ISBN978-0-520-25266-0.
Bryant, Tamera (2005). The Life and Times of Hammurabi. Mitchell Lane. ISBN978-1-58415-338-2.
Eves, Howard (1990). An Introduction to the History of Mathematics (6th ed.). Brooks Cole. ISBN978-0-03-029558-4.
Leonard William (2003). Babylonian Religion and Mythology. Fredonia Books. ISBN978-1-4102-0459-2.
Leick, Gwendolyn (2003). The Babylonians: An Introduction. Routledge.
Saggs, Henry W.F. (1995). Babylonians. University of Oklahoma. ISBN978-0-8061-2765-1.
Saggs, Henry W.F. (1988). The Greatness That Was Babylon: A Survey of the Ancient Civilization of the Tigris-Euphrates Valley. Sidgwick & Jackson. ISBN978-0-283-99623-8.
Schomp, Virginia (2005). Ancient Mesopotamia: The Sumerians, Babylonians, And Assyrians. Franklin Watts. ISBN978-0-531-16741-0.
Spence, Lewis (1995). Myths and Legends of Babylonia and Assyria. Kessinger Publishing. ISBN978-1-56459-500-3.
Le Journal des Médecines Cunéiformes (published twice-yearly from 2003 onwards)
If the further reading section is being recreated, include a gloss about each work explaining how exactly these works are more helpful than a Google search to someone learning about the topic. — LlywelynII02:57, 21 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
There's also more info at the EB articles (and EB material already in the article that needs to be cited to them), but do keep in mind that some points may be dated. — LlywelynII03:14, 21 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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^Babylonians and Assyrians : life and customs. ISBN9781108082365. ...Berossus, the Chaldean historian, tells us that after the creation it was peopled by a mixture of races, and we read in the book of Genesis that Babel, or Babylon, was the first home of the manifold languages of mankind