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"... one of the only ..." This phrase is logically indefensible. It always makes me ask if there were/are any others. Better: "... one of the [very] few ...", or, even better, specify: "... one of only three ...". I don't know what experts on Eglish usage might say about this usage; I only know that it makes me cringe. Too Old 16:30, 29 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
"The document came to be known as Batman's Treaty and is also considered significant as it was the first and only documented time when Europeans negotiated their presence and occupation of Aboriginal lands directly with the traditional owners." This cannot be true and needs to be restated, as aboriginal people in Canada were frequently offered such treaties by the British.
Firstly, please keep discussion and meta-references out of the article space.
Secondly, an image of the treaty can be found here [1]. It's a little blurred, but mostly legible. I've updated the references section to make the link to the image more prominent. --bainer (talk) 05:41, 7 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
As I said on your talk page Eric, the text has not been "stolen", it can be viewed at any time in the article's history page, here: [2]. As for the issue of where to put it, I have to agree with Ambi and say that source material belongs on Wikisource. Wikipedia is not a source repository, but Wikisource is. See also Wikipedia:Don't include copies of primary sources. Once the text is on Wikisource, we can add a nice prominent link to it for anyone who wants to read it in full. --bainer (talk) 06:52, 7 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I reverted these edits as the amounts originally are as in the source cited, and no explanation was given for removal of quantities of change of acreage Garyvines (talk) 12:33, 29 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Read it. The treaty is for use of the land (enfeoffdom) not outright tranfer of sovereignty, for starters. Secondly, there is an upkeep cost, yearly rent, of a similar sum (actually, a somewhat greater sum) as the initial payment. I wonder if Batman himself ever made subsequent payments, and certainly doubt that any such payments were made following the Governer's statement that the treaty was void under his system of law (of course it was, the treaty is for Batman to use the land as a client of the non-English owners, presumably under whatever system of law they held to, or some convention agreed betweem the two parties, or perhaps merely under Common Law or International Law, if such a thing was recognised in those days).
The more interesting question is how or why the Governer of NSW thought the native inhabitants of the land did not have a right to decide on uses of the land, and whether that opinion was true, honestly held, and valid.
Oh and please do something about wikipedia logging the IP of non-registered users. This project is not to erect or support a totalitarian state (if it is, please say so clearly and loudly, particularly when campaigning for donations and soliciting content), and I do not like the idea of being stalked by wierdos such as the admins of this project, or having my interactions with sites such as this conveyed to other users of my internet IP address, be they associates or non-associated parties. I mean this seriously, and take heed, there may be no further warnings, because I am tired of your ignorance of my serious concerns. This issue means this is not 'the encyclopedia anyone can edit' since those who do not wish to provide you with personal details or to have their personal details publicly described cannot edit it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.18.3.246 (talk) 13:29, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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This article mentions the Association several times but doesn't explain was that is/was.
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