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This article is well written, provides an overview of the topic, and with suitable sources.

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a(prose, spelling, and grammar): b(MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check.

   a(reference section): b(inline citations to reliable sources): c(OR): d(copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a(major aspects): b(focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a(images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): b(appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

This review is transcluded from Talk:Blackpink/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Nkon21 (talk · contribs) 19:33, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator: Nkon21 (talk · contribs) 19:33, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Someone who likes maps (talk · contribs) 06:24, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Someone who likes maps: this is not a proper GA review 750h+ 07:37, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Blackpink/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Nkon21 (talk · contribs) 19:33, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer: Tbhotch (talk · contribs) 19:22, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Upcoming review.

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

1. Is it reasonably well written?

   A. Prose quality (prose is clear and concise, without exceeding quotations, or spelling and grammar errors):

   Occasional issues

   B. MoS compliance (including, but not limited to: lead, layout, words to watch, fiction, and lists):

   Occasional issues with weasel phrases

2. Is it factually accurate and verifiable?

   A. References to sources (including an appropriate reference section):

   Some statements are not present

   B. Citation of available and reliable sources where necessary (including direct quotations):

   C. No original research:

   D. No copyright violations:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. Major aspects:

   B. Focused:

   The article focuses on the group and their history

4. Is it neutral?

   Fair representation without bias:

   The article is mainly about the band's accomplishments, but these are written with a neutral tone.

5. Is it stable?

   edit wars, multiple edits not related to the GAN process, etc. (this excludes blatant vandalism):

6. Does it contain images (or other media) to illustrate (or support) the topic?

   A. Images (and other media) are copyright tagged, and non-free images have fair use rationales:

   The images are acceptable and properly tagged. The non-free files are used minimally and with critical commentary

   B. Images (and other media) are provided where possible and are relevant, with suitable captions:

   A couple of files that don't illustrate the sections they appear correctly

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

@Nkon21 and Flabshoe1: sorry for the delay. As soon as I complete John Rudge's review, I'll continue with this one. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 01:00, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

• "Cited as the "biggest girl group in the world"," → WP:WEASEL
• "they are considered" → WEASEL
• "two billion views on YouTube, and remains" → wrong comma
• "since Danity Kane in 2008 and set two" → "since Danity Kane in 2008, and it set two"
• "The album's lead single "Pink Venom" (2022) was the" → "The album's lead single, "Pink Venom" (2022), was the
• "Blackpink have broken" → Blackpink is or Blackpink are?
• "30 Under 30 Asia, and were named" → unneeded comma
• The whole lead is about achievements. Will the whole article be about accomplishments? This is not List of awards and nominations received by BlackpinkorCultural impact of Blackpink. How did they come to be? They were not born successful. What do they do while not performing? I know the article has that information because you have the sections Formation and pre-debut activities, Endorsements, Philanthropy. If they exist, then they are important enough to have subsections that can be summarized in the lead paragraph.

2010–2016

• "Blackpink began forming" → when, in 2009? Because 2NE1 also formed in 2009
• "the pace of training alongside the culture shock was especially difficult" → "the pace of training and the culture shock were especially difficult"
• "Since then, numerous news and rumors surfaced" → "news stories". Also, "since then" implies that this hasn't stopped
• "It was only on May 18" → "It was until May 18"
• "member revealed, on June" → wrong comma
• "native country Thailand and" → "native country, Thailand, and" or "native Thailand"
• "Jisoo also made a cameo appearance in 2015 drama" → in the 2015

@Nkon21 and Flabshoe1: I'll continue either tomorrow or on Thursday. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 04:22, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for starting the review. As per your comments, I have updated the lead to incorporate more sections of the article, and have corrected the grammatical errors listed. Flabshoe1 (talk) 02:26, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks.

2016–2017

• You can link single album since it is not a common term outside South Korea.

It was described as a "mixed genre of music" → by whom?

• "Billboard's Bubbling Under Hot 100 chart, becoming their first song to enter the Bubbling Under Hot 100" → repetitive
• "The music video for the song later..." needs to be moved to the previous paragraph.
• "self-titled Japanese extended play" → "self-titled Japanese extended play (EP)"

2018–2019

• "one on Gaon Album Chart" → the Gaon
• "led Blackpink to becoming the first" → "led Blackpink to become the first"
• "Gaon Digital Chart while "Forever Young"" → "Chart, while "Forever Young""
• "and became the highest-charting song by a Korean girl group in the country" → at that time
• "the second most-watched music video of all time in first 24 hours of release" → "the second most-watched music video of all time in the first 24 hours of release
• "at Kyocera Dome Osaka" → "at the Kyocera Dome Osaka"
• "By the end of its run, the tour became" → The way it is written, "By the end of its run, the tour had became"
• "marking Blackpink's second entry in the chart" → on the chart
• "The group embarked to Japan for a variety of promotional activities" → "The group embarked on a variety of promotional activities in Japan"
• "In January of the following year, Blackpink were" → Blackpink is or Blackpink are
• "Break the Internet Awards™ list" → Legal symbols are discouraged

I had 2020 already but an edit conflict occurred. So I'll redo it tomorrow. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 03:47, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2020–2021

• This is also found in the previous section, change the 100,000,000 streams to 100 million streams
• "On April 22, 2020, it was confirmed the group" → "that the group". Also, who confirmed it?
• "The show documents their 2020 comebacks alongside sharing" → "while sharing"
• "as well as of Rosé's song "Gone" from her first solo single album R" → "as well as Rosé's song "Gone" from her first solo single álbum, R"
• "Blackpink released a Japanese version of The Album on August 3, 2021, with Japanese versions for four out of the eight tracks [...], which peaked at number three on the Oricon Albums Chart" → I know you meant that The Album peaked at number three, but this can imply that the versions did it instead.

2022–present

• "It peaked at number two on South Korea's Circle Digital Chart and number 22 on the Billboard Hot 100 and became" → "It peaked at number two on South Korea's Circle Digital Chart, number 22 on the Billboard Hot 100, and became"
• "Blackpink released their second studio album Born Pink alongside" → "Blackpink released their second studio album, Born Pink, alongside"
• There are some previously linked articles that are linked again, including Hot 100, Global 200, Billboard 200, R (single album), etc.
• " in pure sales during 2022 according" → "in pure sales during 2022, according"
• Seoul, London and Paris are common cities, so they don't need a link
• "The encore leg set several historical records, including making them the first Korean girl group to perform in a stadium in Europe, the first girl group to perform at Allegiant Stadium, Oracle Park, and Dodger Stadium" → where are those stadiums located? Europe or the US?
• "a promotional single titled "The Girls" which" → "a promotional single titled "The Girls", which"
• "their mobile game, Blackpink: The Game on" → "their mobile game, Blackpink: The Game, on"
• "becoming the second group ever to win the latter award since TLC in 1999" → "becoming the second group since TLC in 1999 to receive the latter honor."
• "under discussion, and later" → wrong comma
• "Billboard announced the Blackpink: A VR Encore" → "Billboard announced Blackpink: A VR Encore"

Artistry

• File:Ddu-Du Ddu-Du - Blackpink sample.ogg's rationale is for Lovesick Girls
• "Their discography also utilizes a range of musical styles" → "They also use a variety of musical styles throughout their discography, such as"
• "Their music is often characterized by a fusion of "bold rapping, powerful singing and chic styling"" → Who is being quoted?
• ""rewrote the definition of K-pop and their beauty, It's for them not for anyone else."" → typo
• "Other artists that the group have" → has

Public image

• "naming their song "Pretty Savage" as the song that described them → describes
• "image in K-pop, and for" → wrong comma
• "as larger-than-life idols", "But in carefully" → "as larger-than-life idols [...] [b]ut in carefully"
• "to South Korean hanbok, through" → hanbok is italicized; wrong comma
• File:BLACKPINK Pink Venom Tour 2022 (52544176071).jpg appears but its relevance is not mentioned in the section

The section discusses Blackpink's fandom power and the light stick represents the group's fandom, so I still feel that the image is appropriate.

 Done up to here. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 13:53, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Legacy

• "Since their debut, Blackpink have emerged" → has
• File:BLACKPINK Pink Venom Tour 2022 (2).jpg appears appears but its relevance is not mentioned in the section
• "they ranked first on Forbes Korea Power Celebrity 40 list" → the Forbes
• "Bloomberg wrote that alongside BTS," → "Bloomberg wrote that, alongside BTS,
• "The group was hailed one" → as one.
• "by Rolling Stone while South China Morning Post" → "by Rolling Stone, while the South China Morning Post"
• Today, at 32, I learned that LG is Korean and not Japanese.
• "Sisa Journal identified Blackpink's global influence as a stand out" → According to wikt:stand out, it is a verb, so "standout"
• "their contributions in spreading" → "their contributions to spreading"
• "industry while Variety" → "industry, while Variety"
• "They became the third girl group in history to cover Rolling Stone, after the Spice Girls and Destiny's Child, when they covered the magazine's June 2022 issue" → "They covered the June 2022 issue of Rolling Stone, making history's third girl group to do so after Destiny's Child and the Spice Girls.
• There are some previously linked articles that are linked again, including, but not limited to, Spice Girls, Destiny's Child, Time, Wonder Girls

Other ventures

• Blackpink have acquired → has
• "Globally, Blackpink were" → "Globally, the group members were"
• "Kia Motors, which also served as title sponsor" → the
• In Your Area World Tour was already linked
• "In June 2020, Blackpink collaborated" → they collaborated. You mention the band's name too many times in a short paragraph
• "The group featured Galaxy S10+ and Galaxy Buds" → Galaxy S10+ smartphones and Galaxy Buds earphones/earbuds
• "Blackpink became the first regional brand ambassadors" → Blackpink is a singular
• "for Singaporean e-commerce platform, Shopee," → wrong commas
• "Blackpink became spokesperson for" → a spokesperson
• "Greater China, Philippines" → the Philippines
• "Blackpink in December 2020 as its brand ambassadors. [...] In South Korea, Blackpink have been brand ambassadors [...] Blackpink became honorary ambassadors [...] On February 25, 2021, Blackpink were", etc. → Same as above. It is valid to use plurals when you use plural pronouns, but this article is written in American English and since the very beginning, it was said that Blackpink is a group.
• "In his speech for a state banquet hosting South Korean President President Yoon Suk Yeol" → typo
• King Charles III's nationality needs to be mentioned

Awards and achievements

• There are some previously linked articles that are linked again
• "the UK and US album charts respectively with" → "the UK and US album charts, respectively, with"
• "their second studio album Born Pink" → "their second studio album, Born Pink"

Done up to here.

Members

• It mentions their positions inside the group. This information should have been mentioned earlier

Filmography

• Some have sources for some reason, but others don't
• [[Blackpink World Tour [Born Pink] In Cinemas]] (2024) needs to be fixed

@Nkon21 and Flabshoe1: I'll continue with the references tomorrow. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 04:35, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

• Earwig reports 32.4% of similarity with a Billboard link. You'll need to paraphrase some phrases

• The same with『Le Gala des Pièces Jaunes charity event organized by the first lady of France, Brigitte Macron』[1].

• Source 3 (KBS World) goes to a newer archived version. The archived link works correctly.
• Source 5 (Popdust) is a dead link. The archived link says "Is Nazi Chic so bad? Nazi-Chic: The Aesthetics of Fascism"
• Source 51 (Billboard) |url-access=subscription
• Source 63 (Billboard) |url-access=subscription
• Source 64 (Billboard) |url-access=subscription
• Source 75 (Time) "The concert was the first show of the In Your Area World Tour, which continued throughout 2019 and early 2020 in North America, Europe, Oceania and Asia." is not mentioned by Time
• Sources 69 and 77 are the same, Official Charts Company. Please note this will change the subsequent numbering
• Source 81 (Billboard) "On October 23, the group signed with Interscope Records in a global partnership with YG Entertainment; they were to be represented by Interscope and Universal Music Group outside of Asia" → Close paraphrase: "The talented foursome will be represented by Interscope and Universal Music Group worldwide, outside of Asia."
• Source 82 (MTV Asia) "In November 2018, Blackpink announced additional tour dates for their In Your Area World Tour, which covered thirteen dates across Asia from January to March 2019." I only could read 8 dates.
• Source 85 → Needs a publisher. Also, it seems to be a paywall service, so |url-access=subscription
• Source 86 (Billboard) |url-access=subscription
• Source 94 (Billboard) |url-access=subscription
• Source 107 (BBC) "It was also their first top-twenty single in the UK, debuting at number 17." The first statement is not present in the source.

@Nkon21 and Flabshoe1: I'll pause at the moment. I should complete the review tomorrow. If you have any comments or questions, ping me back. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 07:08, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Source 118 and 119 (Yg Life and Sports Seoul) "On July 23, YG Entertainment announced that a second single, "Ice Cream" with American singer Selena Gomez, would be released on August 28." → The sources don't mention Gomez's participation.
• Source 120 (Billboard) |url-access=subscription
• Source 125 (Billboard) |url-access=subscription
• Source 128 (Billboard) |url-access=subscription
• Source 130 (Billboard) |url-access=subscription
• Source 131 (Los Angeles Times) |url-access=subscription
• Source 133 (Billboard) |url-access=subscription
• Source 135 (Bloomberg) |url-access=registration
• Source 136 (South China Morning Post) |url-access=subscription
• Source 142 (Billboard) "To promote the release, they appeared on Japanese music television programs such as TV Asahi's Music Station." → This statement is not present in the source
• Source 145 (HeraldPop) Is『POP, 헤럴드』a person?
• Source 149 (YG Life) → Avoid WP:ALLCAPS
• Source 153 (Billboard) |url-access=subscription
• Source 155 (Rolling Stone) |url-access=subscription
• Source 158 (Billboard) |url-access=subscription
• Source 161 (officialcharts.com) has a different header. It also has an author and a publication date.
• Source 163 (IFPI) "The album was the seventh best-selling album worldwide in pure sales during 2022, according to the IFPI." The source says eighth.
• Source 165 (Rolling Stone) |url-access=subscription
• Sources 169 and 170 (NME and Billboard) "The tour continued in 2023 with stadium shows across Asia as well as several concerts in Mexico and Australia". The sources don't mention Mexico
• Source 178 (Vulture) |url-access=subscription
• Source 183 (Billboard) is Source 170. It needs the right source
• Source 186 (Billboard) "Produced by the Diamond Bros, the 70-minute concert premiered in VR on December 26 in Meta Horizon Worlds" → December 26 is not mentioned, naturally

Per source, BLACKPINK: A VR Encore premieres in VR on Tuesday, Dec. 26

• Source 194 (Rolling Stone) |url-access=subscription
• Source 195 (Rolling Stone) |url-access=subscription
• Source 202 (Rolling Stone) |url-access=subscription
• Source 223 (South China Morning Post) |url-access=subscription
• Source 224 (Rolling Stone) |url-access=subscription

Addressed up to here. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 02:40, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Source 224 (Grammys) is a dead link
• Source 226 (The New York Times) |url-access=subscription
• Source 246 (The New York Times) |url-access=subscription
• Source 256 (KoogleTV) is a dead link
• Source 272 (The Star) |url-access=subscription
• Source 285 (YGEX) is a dead link
• Source 288 (Elle) is a dead link
• Source 298 (Koki News) is a dead link
• "Blackpink's accolades include thirteen Guinness World Records, fourteen Circle Chart Music Awards, seven Golden Disc Awards, eleven MAMA Awards, five Melon Music Awards, four MTV Video Music Awards, three People's Choice Awards, four Seoul Music Awards, a Billboard Music Award, a MTV Europe Music Award, and a Teen Choice Award." needs sources
• Source 305 (TenAsia) is a dead link
• Sources 308 and 115 (Guinness) are the same
• Source 309 (Guinness) is a dead link
• Source 310 (Guinness) is a dead link
• Sources 311 and 202 (Rolling Stone) are the same
• Source 315 (Guinness) is a dead link

That's the full review. Thank you for your time and for working on it in the meantime. Once you complete the concerns, let me know. If you have any comments or questions, ping me back. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 20:41, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the detailed notes, and I've gone through and addressed all remaining points. For the Earwig report of similarity to the Billboard link, I've reduced it by over a percentage with some paraphrasing but have been unclear as to how to do so further as the detected parts are fairly generic phrases such as "the first K-pop girl group". Let me know if you have any suggestions. Flabshoe1 (talk) 03:06, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, common and generic phrases are read as a match by the tool, but the reported percentages have decreased. (CC) Tbhotch^™ 06:35, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.