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How do you determine if original SS or not? --Clrusher 04:53, 8 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The Chevrolet Chevy II brochures for 1962 and 1963 show that only two engines were available: the four cylinder and the 194ci 6cyl. The article says the 230ci was also available for 62 and 63, and then goes on the say that the 230ci was introduced in 1964. The 1965 and 1966 brochures say that the 230ci was available, and that information should be added to the engine article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Straight-6_engine).
I still question the veracity of saying that the '66 - '67 was a "second" generation. Even this article says that it was only a "minor restyling." Don't you need substantive changes to be called a new generation? Why would Chevrolet create a whole generation of a popular-selling car just to ditch it in two years?
Maybe generation "1 and 1/2", but not "2".
Nova SS 22:19, 31 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Why does Buick Apollo redirect here?
Regarding the 1962-67 generation, they share the same chassis layout although 1966/67 being labeled a generation of its own has been decided by Chevy II purists. I have not heard of 66/67 being referred to as the "first generation and a half", Gen 1.5, or Gen 1b. The first generation VW Bus was known as the Type 2 throughout its lifetime; however, the pre-1968 had three nomenclatures - T1a, T1b, and T1c.Montrose Patriot 08:51, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hate to say it, but the rebadged Toyota Nova came out as a 1985 model. That is, unless the EPA is wrong: http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymodel/1985_Chevrolet_Nova.shtml I'm going to go back and correct that info unless you can convince me the federal government is wrong and tested a nonexistent car. ;-) ⇒ BRossow T/C 00:23, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The text implies that the name changed to "Chevy Nova" in '69 and then to "Chevrolet Nova" in '70. Are you sure the official designation didn't become Chevrolet Nova in '69, with no change thereafter? See this ad: [1] Nova SS 23:28, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
"The text implies that the name changed to "Chevy Nova" in '69 and then to "Chevrolet Nova" in '70". That IS correct. Read the first line of the ad (not the headline).
A recent issue of Hemmings Motor News featured an article on collectibles for under $3500, and the following made the list: 1975-79 Nova, and 1973-87 Chevrolet/GMC C/K series.
Most of the 75-79 generation is over 30+ years old, and the restoration industry does not seem to care about these vehicles at all. Only the mechanicals e.g. suspension, small interior components are listed in both X and second-generation F-body (Camaro/Firebird) resto catalogs. Back then, it was not cool to own a 75-79 X-car along with the Dodge Aspen although the GM X-car was a better choice than the poor-quality control Mopar counterpart (e.g. rusted fenders and body panels, Lean Burn). One has to browse smogera.com and view the '70s iron which would be deemed the lowest point in automobile history...Montrose Patriot 07:10, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I just bought a 1969 nova, and it has the chevy ll badge across the front of the hood. Did some 1969 nova's come from the factory with this badge? There are no other chevy ll badges on the car. Thanks rick.
Well that's about the least flattering picture I have seen for this car. I don't know the standard wikipedia guidelines on what picture should be the main article picture, but I feel that the one that most represents the vehicle should be. I'll admit I've been duped when people told me they had a Chevy Nova, and pulled up in a Toyota Tercel-looking box on wheels (no offense to the owners). But the first image that pops into my head is that of a 1969 Nova, not the last model of the car that lead to its demise. Zchris87v 20:04, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
KEEP THE MAIN PICTURE! I fixed the description on it, since its clearly not a 5 door hatchback version (I have the same car in Grey). IT is a 4 Door version
Just because you have a Toyota nova doesn't meant that should be the main pic! I agree with Zchris, most people think of one of the first three gens of novas when the term is used (third most I would venture). Lets get a picture of a third generation up there, any objections? --SSChicken 07:55, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
My opinion (having owned 4 "real" Novas) is that the Toyota thing is NOT a representative picture of the subject at hand. My preference would be a first generation Nova (62-65), but a third generation (68-74) example would be fine with me. In addition, there should be NO predecessor and the successor should be the Citation, since the first "Nova" was produced in 63 as a brand new model. (Although technically it was initially called a Chevy II at that time.) Bruno 09:54, 2 August 2007 (UTC)Bruno Schwartz[reply]
In Discussion with the Nova Listserv, I have replaced the current photo with a very good 1973 restoration photo. I agree with the 'Predecessor/Successor' comment, but perhaps the successor should be the Geo, and could there be one called the "Interim" for the time between '79 and the Toyota model? I Personally would vote for the ToyoNova to be a separate wikipedia article altogether. It was a different manufacturer and a different class of cars, the Chevy Nova and successor Citation were considered Compact cars, while the ToyoNova and the successor Geo Metro were considered Subcompact. --SSChicken 15:47, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The reference to the urban legend: "no va" is mentioned in another section and is ambiguous and redundant in this section. My preference would be removing that entire paragraph.Bruno 10:00, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I would remove the 'No Va' bit from the 'Argentina' section. That is a myth which has been debunked many times over, yet in the 'Argentina' section is still billed as truth. Get rid of it. --SSChicken 15:47, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, the section on the 85-88 Novas should be made a separate article and made into a page called 1985-1988 Chevrolet Nova.
Pam1855 —Preceding comment was added at 18:08, 12 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
So, I am learning what I can about Novas from 1962-1974. So far I think i am remembering most of what I am reading/learning.
I was reading the Chevy II page and the first sentence under "Third Generation" heading says that in 1968 the two-door convertible was discontinued as a body style.
Is this a typo (supposed to say two-door hardtop)? Weren't convertibles only an option in 1962 & 1963?
I could be way off here, cause, like I said, I am just learning, and I know that Wikipedia is probably not the best place to find and memorize info from, but I guess if I find things like this and question them, right or wrong they are probably more likely to stick!!!
Thanks for any help you can give me on this.
~~ChristyLynn (Christy1027) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Christy1027 (talk • contribs) 06:34, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I could have sworn that when I was a kid I saw some Novas that when going straight would actually appear to be at an odd angle, and it appears that I am right about that. See http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a2_352a.html. Would that be worth incorporating into the article, as I recall it being fairly common and notable? After all, I came here to look for it. 76.124.78.88 (talk) 08:43, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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BetacommandBot (talk) 04:45, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Shouldn't this page have a note at the top about confusion with the Vauxhall Nova, which is also a GM product?(86.31.188.36 (talk) 02:20, 16 August 2008 (UTC))[reply]
I recently put up a notable appearances section that was cited and confirmable. But it was removed, I was just looking for some clarification why. It followed the same format as the Camaros notable appearances and was far more extensive and impressive. 72ChevyNova (talk) 17:02, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
There seems to be a disconnect between the urban legend debunkers and marketing experts as Chevy Nova sales in Venezuela and South America. The debunkers first affirm that the product was indeed sold in Venezuela as Nova, acknowledged the Spanish language can quickly understand 'No Va' to mean 'Doesn't Go', and that the product was quickly removed from the South American markets (replaced by the Caribe I believe).
The issue that Marketers have is that a poorly chosen product name especially one that instantly triggers a negative response (even if it is a comical remark like nova sounding like No Va.) This is an immensely stupid move by Chevy which does hurt marketing factors too numerous to cite.
I can only surmise that because Chevy lowballed the initial sales expectations which Venezuelan sales exceeded (but just barely mind you.) that somehow this was enough to prove it an urban myth. By that logic I concede it, though I find it a simplification.
Right now American car companies are trying to branch out into Chinese, Korean and other Asian markets and are very, very careful about the importance of translation, even abandoning established product names due to the same problems that arose from the Nova/No Va situation.
I just wish that the article would remove the claim altogether.
Thank you for your time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.163.8.125 (talk) 05:00, 26 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Can you name any cars that have been renamed for the Chinese market? I've been following the industry for some time now and have not heard of such a practice. Perhaps I'm ingorant. I'd like to know exactly what long established American cars nameplates have been dropped.24.138.18.30 (talk) 03:31, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
What the main article states about this topic is quite innacurate. It is by no means an "urban legend" that the model was renamed because of the translation, rather an actual fact. At least in Argentina, the local branch of GM released the model with the "Chevy" brand instead of Nova PRECISELY because of it's meaning in spanish. But they did so, not in the belief that potential buyers would think that this car doesn't go, like the notable example, which is of course ridiculous, but rather because naming a car "doesn't go" or "chevrolet slow" is obviously a bad move if your intentions are to sell cars. I firmly believe the main article should be rectified at this point. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.247.245.27 (talk) 02:37, 13 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The Chevy II/Nova 66-67 models are not referred to as the second generation for a body restyle. Example #1: Impalas had new body styling every year from 61-64 (common in the 60s especially on full-size cars) and that period is referred to as one generation; the car was not redesigned until 1965. Example #2: 67-69 Camaros. The 69 had new sheet-metal but the 67-69 is the same generation. The 70 Camaro was redesigned. Example #3 The 66 Chevelle had a body restyle also but 64-67 models are the same generation. The 68 Chevelle was redesigned. The 64-67 Chevy II is the first generation (even with new sheet metal for 66-67); the 68-74 is the first redesign, and second generation (even with new sheet metal for 73-74). The 75-79 was the second redesign, (and third generation); the 86-88 was the reintroduction of the nameplate (and fourth generation). Vegavairbob (talk) 03:53, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Just for the record.
1962 - 1967
1968 - 1979
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An anon-IP edited the page to try to merge the fourth generation into the third but did it badly. I reverted it and he left a message on my User talk:Stepho-wrs#Chevy Nova page talk page saying that the so called fourth gen was really part of the third gen. Does this have any merit? Splitting generations and facelifts can be hard sometimes. Stepho talk 21:45, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The sections do need to be cleaned up. The 73/74 cars are widely accepted as 3rd Gens still, even with the facelift due to changing DOT requirements. I don't have time right now to do it, but if no one else jumps on merging them and cleaning them up I'll get to it soon. Brownings (talk) 12:03, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]