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88marcus has replaced original sources for sales of Christina Aguilera (17 million, The Daily Telegraph) and Stripped (12 million, Rolling Stone) with sources from Contactmusic and VH1, giving the reason that "Its about the more accurate according to the album certifications and chart performance. Also, Rolling Stones is not Nielsen soundscan or IFPI, they don't know anything about sales too. The debut performed poorly outside the USA (see its charts)". I am not saying that he was right or wrong. I just want him to address my concerns,
If "Rolling Stone is not Nielsen soundscan or IFPI", then are Contactmusic.com and VH1?
The biography on Contactmusic.com only updates until 2011. Also, the author of this biography is unknown, therefore no credibility can be attributed down to.
The biography on VH1 is exactly the same with Wikipedia page of Christina Aguilera. This biography also contains information before 2010.
Given that authors of The Daily Telegraph and Rolling Stone are responsible for there works rather than freely-written biographies on Contactmusic and VH1, could 88marcus address my concerns above? Other members can feel free to discuss and point out what I or he or anybody is missing. Regards, HĐ (talk) 15:09, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It's the same case of Thriller by Michael Jackson. A lot of sources claim that this album sold around 100 million copies worldwide, but that doesn't mean that it's true, those sales are created by record companies, fans and even Wikipedia users for commercial purposes, to value the artist. See the debut album case, this album performed poorly outside the non-english language countries, it was a top 10 in only 4 countries, certified only platinum in Europe (1 million copies shipped) and after the promo of its last single, the record company told the the album sold 12.5 million copies worldwide linklink (there's a lot of sites that claim 12kk in between 2000-2007). How this album could sold 8 million copies outside USA (17kk ww)? See its certifications, there's no way this could be true. I think the 14kk it's the more accurate, the user @Bluesatellite: made this edition (14kk sold) and argued the same. If we have sales from IFPI wouldn't be different, the others sites only repeted what they read in other sites, sometimes using Wikipedia as a source, but none of them work with worldwide sales accounting.--88marcus (talk) 20:23, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I understand your point, but I am particularly concerned with contactmusic and VH1's reliability. Especially with the VH1 article, which looks completely like a Wikipedia rip-off. This 2006 article claimed both albums sold 12.5m and 9.5m, respectively, but that data is too outdated imo. — HĐ (talk) 15:07, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Both albums were out of the charts at the time of the source, how could those albums sold another three and five millions copies worldwide?! As per the IFPI, Stripped was #21 of 2002 with 3,9m copies sold and #16 of 2003 with 3,5m, making it 7,4 million copies shipped by the end of 2003. Copies sold in early 2004 were already shipped during 2003 Xmas season and after that it wasn’t selling that well anymore.--88marcus (talk) 17:13, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Please remove Bionic World Sales, *World: 1,400,000 (Units)[1] because it is using deprecated chart (Websites to avoid), chartmasters.org - Falls under WP:SPS, and there's no indication of where the figures are from.
Please remove Lotus World Sales, *World: 1,000,000 (Units)[2] because it is using deprecated chart (Websites to avoid), chartmasters.org - Falls under WP:SPS, and there's no indication of where the figures are from. Remixbxxch (talk) 11:09, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Please classify correctly the singles "We Remain", "Haunted Heart", "Loyal Brave True" and "Reflection (2020)" as promo singles. All these singles were released as promo singles and aren't in the right section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.176.112.254 (talk) 23:58, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Not done: Unfortunately, ChartMasters a self-published blog, and as such it cannot be cited as a reliable source (see WP:BLOGS). LifeofTau 04:37, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Done, replaced both with {{citation needed}}. Fish+Karate 12:44, 12 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
