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Oppose For basically the exact same reasons as the 2016 and 2018 move requests [1][2]. The article is about Chrysler the topic and the organization from it's inception nearly 100 years ago and "Chrysler" is the common name. This article includes the time as an independent company as well as the DC and Chrysler-Cerberus time, basically all the pre-FIAT/pre-Stellantis time which was the majority of the history of the organization. Chrysler is the common name and the name people are most likely to search for. Chrysler, not Stellantis is the name of the defense contractor that designed the M1 Abrams tank and the prime contractor for the Saturn IB rocket. Stellantis NA should be reserved for discussions that are specific to the the parent of the Chrysler brand. Springee (talk) 18:01, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - this article covers the entire history of Chrysler going back over a century, and Chrysler is overwhelmingly the common name. --Sable232 (talk) 18:44, 13 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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First, I'll start with the less controversial one: I'd like to propose that the § Chrysler brand section be split into a page called Chrysler (automotive brand), separate from the parent company. It's no different than say the GMC brand being split from the GM parent company article. At 133k, this article is well past the point of a WP:SIZESPLIT, and this seems like a logical place to make the split.
Support but I would like a clear definition of what goes in each article before the split so gray area items (automotive technologies as an example) have a clear home in one or the other. My feeling is the technologies (Hemi engines as an example) should go in this article while brand should focus on name plates, sales, Chrysler specific marketing etc. Springee (talk) 23:08, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I like @User:Springee's logic above, so I'd therefore further propose that the page be further split into both a Chrysler Corporation page (covering the history of the company from 1925–1998) and a Stellantis North America page (covering the history of the company from 1998 to the present). It's a somewhat arbitrary date, but in my reading, it's the start of a period of the company being passed between international partners.
Given the length I generally support the the idea of splitting the brand from the company but I think we should have a clear definition of what goes where before doing so. So rockets and tanks stay with the company. Where would discussion of the Hemi engines go? I'm asking as a point of discussion. Given the length I do think some type of split makes sense. I would prefer as few splits as possible. Springee (talk) 21:15, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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