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References should be made for all the data added, look at the existing references that the other users have already used! Thanks.
- References 5 and 6 are exacly the same and they must be fixed, because only the link to a website isn't enough!
- the "Nature" seems to be a intruding, in fact there already exist the sections Flora and Fauna; and most of all, terms like "Very special" cannot be used because it's a personal opinion!
QuotedMercury (talk) 17:06, 11 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Still trying to get more info about 'Fauna', but the references seems
Just made the latest updates on the Flora paragraph, made also the references. Is there any paragraph that need to be completed? Where there’s none of us already working on it.
BRSLIUCG1 (talk) 14:22, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Just added some information about the others caves, hope it will be fine.
Moreover the sentence “so rich in precious architecture” was too personal and subjective and was changed into “rich in architecture”. Let me know if it’s fine for you
BRSLIUCG1 (talk) 13:25, 12 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Users, when you add references look the layout of the previous ones, you need to add fields like Language, Translated Title etc if the article/website is in Italian. Thank you. Phoenixmb13 (talk) 07:34, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
References: several text sections have no references. There are five errors in red in the references. These relate to using the appropriate Cite templates correctly. Reference 6 has an author missing. Reference 17, 7 and 5 needs the original source referenced, not the site you found it on. Ref. 14 and 15 needs publication titles, etc. Be consistent in how you reference Italian sources - some have titles translated, some say 'in Italian', others just the Italian text.
Structure: add See Also, External Links, Gallery and Categories. Change section Bridge to Ponte Ciolo (Bridge Ciolo). Change Caves to The Ciolo Caves. The sentence on caves is not relevant to the section on the bridge.
Images: the long text sections need acceptable and relevant images sourcing and formatting to align with the relevant text sections. Try to find and add an acceptable large scale map (location section).
Links out: fix the link out in red. You link out once, where you first use the linked text. You are missing some useful links out (e.g. to Etoiliate, Sea Cave, etc.). Be consistent in what you link out to, and the reasons for it e.g. you link out to owl, but nor robin, etc.; you link out to Cave of the monk seal, but not Sparrows Cave, etc. Some links out need reviewing for removal e.g. colours, greenish, reddish, boat, etc.
Talk page: @Pinkuser14 and Yankee2121: As an educational project, use of the Talk page is required for article development.
Page format: the page is largely flat text. Consider better ways to format it. For example, the data on the different caves could be tabulated in an introductory sub-section, then have other sub-sections in this section on the specific cave descriptions.
Content: some of the detailed text needs to be reduced, particularly where it belongs on another existing page. As one of many examples, 2 of the 4 sentences on Alyssum belong on the latter page, not here. Don't include too much from the secondary sources - you are summarizing, not duplicating, this content. It is better to have several references to different facts, rather that a paragraph from one source. Be consistent in the use of bold and italics e.g. for the names of the caves, the biggest one, etc. Remove the repetitive content.
Grammar/Style: avoid and remove the use of superfluous words e.g. Then, moreover, just, also, for some tears now, a place like, so it's possible, most fearless, adrenalin-pumping, there's, strictly, at the mercy of, particularly, was born, additionally, remarkable, admiring, breath-taking, enjoyable, etc. Don't start sentences with And, But, etc. Be consistent across all the content e.g. is it The Ciolo, or Ciolo, or ciolo? Is it a canal or channel? Are you using Latin or common names for plants? Check and use the correct format for years. Correct the obvious spelling errors (in red in English editor).Limelightangel (talk) 14:04, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Talk page: you may wish to tidy up the Talk page prior to submission, to better comply with the conventions and style e.g. remove the use of the personal tense, 'I'm gonna repair it', etc.
Structure: The summary intro needs to say where it is in terms of region and country. The sentence on the origin of the name here can be removed (duplicated from Fauna section). The location section needs to then describe the specific location. Chane the Diving subsection to High Diving, and link out.
'Grammar/Style: the grammar is very poor e.g. 'most large', 'position Is located ', 'Eng. Mario Carrone', 'Prof. Ing. Vincenzo', 'has been object of', ' the homonyms cove', ' speciem', 'name to to the cave', 'studies have relieved', ' also on little scale but very stable in time even if in stable decreasing.', 'analysed', 'for over than 120 meters ', 'is hight is over 30 meters, 'wich includes', 'a relict', 'mediterranean', 'the queen's falcon', etc. Avoid and remove the use of subjective and superfluous words e.g. Then, moreover, just, fearless, adrenalin-pumping, there's, strictly, nowadays, we have to consider, however, thus, is remarkable, perfect spots, admiring dives, indeed enjoyable, etc. Be consistent across all the content e.g. in the inconsistent use of italics and bold; The names of the caves need to be in a consistent format (case); 'semi submerge' or 'semi- submerged'? Check and use the correct and consistent format for years/dates/numbers/distances etc. e.g. '1960s', 'the Summer of 2019', 'fifteen', '75', '4Km', '24 of December',etc. Correct the obvious spelling errors (in red in English editor).
Content: You state there are 4 caves, then that one of these has two of these 4 names; fix this contradiction. Use east/west, not 'left'. The first 3 sentences on Ferns needs to be removed (not specific to this page, belongs on Ferns page. The single sentence under scuba diving does not relate to scuba diving, but to access to the sea for swimming, snorkeling and diving, and is better in the intro to activities, or in the location section. Try to find more information on this site as a scuba diving location. There is still duplicate content e.g. on the name origin, the staircase to the sea, etc. The map can be located better, and sooner.
Links out: You are missing some useful links out (e.g. to Etoiliate, Sea Cave, High diving, etc.). Some links out need reviewing for removal e.g. boat, etc. There are still many duplicate links out, which need removing. The External links need formatting correctly.
Images: try to get an acceptable image of rock climbing at this location. Improve the image captions in the Gallery e.g. with exact location (they are stored on Wikimedia). Remove 'Another angle' and, if permitted, the photographers names. Remove the diving image in the gallery, which is almost identical to the one used in the text.Limelightangel (talk) 11:02, 3 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
There remains issues with acceptable, objective style. For example, in the tourism section, you cannot say that it is a 'perfect spot' or 'enjoyable' - it may well be, but this is subjective and biased content. This section also duplicates content related to being sheltered from the wind. You may be able to improve the content in this section. There are sourcing documenting overcrowding at the tiny beach in July-August (not from an acceptable source) and you may be able to find tourist statistics, and/or local news sources on this sub-topic. Limelightangel (talk) 12:16, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
