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I removed the following:
If one doesn't want people linking to one's site, then one should take it off the internet. If he doesn't like the spoilers in this article, then he shouldn't link to it. savidan(talk) (e@) 06:11, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Reply from the curator of the cups and balls museum: "The cups and balls museum web site is password protected. Under Wikipedia guidelines, links to password protected sites are unacceptable."
Bill Palmer, M.I.M.C.
Removed the link to http://www.cupsandballs.nl/ which is just a commercial site selling cups and balls. Also removed http://magicsecrets.suddenlaunch3.com it's a good forum but it's about magic in general, not specifically Cups and Balls, so it's irrelevant to link to it here. --172.145.41.134 00:46, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
In 1936, Fred Lodge, a Scot, wrote "A Novel Cup And Ball Effect" on p. 26 of a (now rare) book entitled The Mysteries of the Mystic Seven. The secret was exactly the same as the one which would become famous 18 years later after being routined by Al Wheatley with one cup instead of two. Etienne Lorenceau
Has anyone thought of using electromagnets in the cups, with a switch to determine whether the ball is hidden or on show? Zfishwiki (talk) 08:38, 21 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree with the assessment that it is unencyclopedic and simply an "instruction manual" to have a section discussing how the trick is performed.. Explaination of the principles behind a magic trick do not constitute an instruction manual. They constitute explaination of what principles of magic, slight of hand, etc. are present in a trick. I am also willing to bet a significant amount of money that 90% of people that read the "how it's done" sections of magic articles have no intent on ever attempting them - it's not an instruction manual, it's an explaination of the trick, which I don't see how you can claim is unencyclopedic. I know magicians like to keep the secrets of tricks a secret, but that's not an excuse for deleting stuff from wikipedia. TheHYPO 21:21, 5 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
"Many magic secrets are closely guarded. In accordance with Wikipedia guidelines, only those with reliable and cited sources can be included in Wikipedia articles. If a secret cannot be verified through independent sources, it will be removed from the main article. Any "secret" revealed on this talk page may not be accurate; it may be speculative, erroneous, or even deliberately deceptive."
The "citation needed" tags have been present on the Performance and Variations section for over 3 years. If citations cannot be found, these secrets need to be removed in accordance with Wikipedia guidelines.
PBMagi (talk) 13:01, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
"Cup and ball" has two meanings. This one, and of course the game of bilbocquet (which does not yet have a page on Wikipedia), basically the game so popular in Victorian times (but already very popular in Europe beforehand, in fact Henry III of France used to play with a bilbocquet in the late 1500s. Can someone help with this? Perhaps disambiguate [cup and ball] and allow the user to choose either the magic trick or the bilbocquet game? Tris2000 (talk) 15:58, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The sections should be in chronological order, if we can determine who performed the trick first. As it stands, there's the implication that Latimer's trick is based on Penn & Teller's; while, reverting the sections would imply the reverse. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 05:57, 10 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Description of Cheppam Panthum was removed as it was uncited and written in a promotional manner. However, the routine described under Indian Cups and Balls is the Cheppam Panthum routine, whereas the more common routine is similar to the Bean Sowing and performed with small bowls. The Indian Cups and Balls section should be updated to reflect this, however I also lack the required citations. If you are fortunate enough to have suitable citations, please contribute. PBMagi (talk) 13:01, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
From Penn&Teller's tour to egypt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWaE5vROvs0 @ 42:15 you can see the painting--Mager (talk) 14:53, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
