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Talk:Echo & the Bunnymen

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Doesn't seem to get a mention... embaressing it might be but it should be mentioned. --kingboyk 13:43, 30 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This contradicts what we have referenced from a book. Does anybody have a reference for it? Jkelly 04:08, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is an often reported myth that "Echo" was the drum machine although McCulloch has referred in past tense to the drum machine as Echo. The drum machine that was used was a Korg Minipops Junior.

Will Sergeant made the "Echo" thing up and explains how the "Bunnymen" came to be:

The pair (Ian McCulloch and Will Sergeant) met in Liverpool as teenagers in 1978. As the story goes, the group consisted of only the two young musicians and a drum machine named Echo, which allegedly inspired the band's unusual name.

"Yeah, that story is rubbish," Sergeant said. "We used to tell the press we got the name from the drum machine, but that was just to shut people up, you know?" We just wanted a name that was completely different, and Echo was just a word we liked," he said. "Now, Bunnymen, there was an idea behind that, of these weird, spirit, bunny things that, like, existed only in folklore. There's one on the cover of our first single, 'Pictures on My Wall.' "

Then you have to acknowledge the contradiction. WesleyDodds 10:23, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

We would, if we had a reliable source for the above. But we don't know where that Sergeant quote came from. Jkelly 16:20, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Let me check, I think it was referenced in Turquois Days by Chris Adams. 199.30.0.49 21:09, 31 January 2007 (UTC) Debbi[reply]

I know I don't count as a reliable source, but I was there at Eric's for their debut gig with Teardrop Explodes. I remember Julian Cope standing there imploring the crowd not to gob on him. I also very vividly recall E&TB coming on and saying 'This is Echo and we are the Bunnymen' before launching into their set. 174.112.37.93 (talk) 00:19, 9 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

At the time (around 1979-80) 'Bunnyman' was a term for someone who dressed in army surplus clothing such as camouflaged trousers, army parkas, etc. This was before wearing such apparel became a fashion statement, instead it was worn back then because it was cheap and generally of high quality.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.7.147.13 (talk) 14:11, 1 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I seem to remember that the early issues of this (vinyl) compilation came with a songbook - with guitar tabs and lyrics, etc. - in keeping with the album title. Can anyone else recall this? It may be interesting enough to go into the article, if it can be proven. LessHeard vanU 21:12, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Since only McCulloch was involved in this from the Bunnymen, it doesn't really belong here. It's covered in the Ian McCulloch article. The record was poor, but to state that it was "universally unpopular" is wrong since it was popular enough to make the top 10. The detail about Baddiel and Skinner/The Lightning Seeds record also doesn't belong here - it's nothing to do with Echo and The Bunnymen.--Michig 07:48, 12 February 2007 (UTC) The detail about Three Lions really belongs in the Three Lions article.--Michig 08:05, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've done some work on the introduction, and removed "originally as part of the English neopsychedelic movement of that time period", as it is meaningless. --Sparklism 21:43, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have an mp3 of Echo performing this song, but it's credited to Kill Hannah everywhere I've looked. I can't even find that they covered it on allmusic.com

does anyone know anything about this? it's a terrific song.

it is similar to echo and the bunnymen's sound but it is actually by "The Church"

The discography section is now almost half of the article - how about an Echo & the Bunnymen discography page, with just the main studio albums included here? Thanks sparkl_!sm ^talk 20:16, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any way to change the logo on the top of the picture in the infobox? That logo was used when only half of the people shown in the picture were continuing on as Echo & the Bunnymen, after Mac quit and after Pete's death. Bunnygod888 02:55, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Theres absolutely no mention of Bill Drummond. He was their reluctant manager until 84/85. Shouldnt this be remedied somehow? Chadwholovedme 01:29, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The link for Villiers Terrace.com in the external links section contains the term "The Ultimate Echo and the Bunnymen Resource". This is not NPOV, it is what the website is called. --JD554 (talk) 13:56, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This has gone beyond "Start" class. Surely it should be reassessed to "B". Covers everything at some level and has a full discography article backing it up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rep07 (talk • contribs) 21:50, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a few refs (and have loads more). They're not in the correct format. 'cos I don't know how.. I'd be grateful if someone could tidy them up. Cheers sparkl_!sm ^hey! 20:27, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not all of them were necessary, they only really need to be used for contentious information, direct quotes or statistical facts. The rest I've reformated so the show the necessary informtion. --JD554 (talk) 21:00, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The main article could be improved if there were a list of the music videos involving Echo & the Bunnymen. Did MTVorVH1 ever run any of their videos? 198.177.27.17 (talk) 04:11, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There is a list of their videos at Echo & the Bunnymen discography. --JD554 (talk) 06:48, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This may have been covered before, but why is the band name spelled "Echo & the Bunnymen" with an undercase 't', when their record sleeves show two alternative spellings, ie. "ECHO AND THE BUNNYMEN" and "Echo & The Bunnymen"? 84.198.246.199 (talk) 23:43, 15 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I'd like to know this, too. What's the deal?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.211.90.65 (talk • contribs) 11:14, 17 February 2010

To comply with the manual of style rules, see Wikipedia:MUSTARD#Titles_.28bands.29. --JD554 (talk) 11:24, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The manual of style rules should not be complied with when that's not the name the band chooses to be identified by. The right of self-identification is basic, and to rename a band to comply with some arbitrary style rule is improper. If there were not consistency in their branding, then it might make sense to apply a standardised rule, but there is, and "the" is not in Echo & The Bunnymen's name. This is even more consistent than the use of an ampersand, and can be seen on all their official materials. Wikipedia:Ignore_all_rules 2601:1C2:5000:8CC7:DC9:BEEF:428D:11C6 (talk) 02:19, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect that if Roberts does state that Reverberation reached #19 it's a mistake. According to Strong's The Great Indie Discography, Chart Stats ([1]), and Everyhit.com, all of which are very reliable, it didn't chart at all.--Michig (talk) 16:48, 5 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think this is pretty conclusive in showing that it didn't chart.--Michig (talk) 17:39, 6 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've checked in the most recent Virgin Book of British Hit Albums, and that also doesn't show Reverberation as charting. It looks like Roberts did make a mistake. I've reverted my revert. --JD554 (talk) 07:33, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bands itself uses Capital T, Am I the only one who would prefer this here as well? Stp1910 (talk) 19:38, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No, you are not the only one. Right now, Echo & The Bunnymen redirects to Echo & the Bunnymen, but it should be the other way around. Echo & The Bunnymen indeed use a capital "T" in "The" as part of their official band name. This usage is consistent across their official promotional materials, social media platforms, and merchandise. The band's preference for the capitalized "The" is evident in various official sources, including their own website and YouTube channel​​​​. This stylistic choice is a part of their branding and is used to distinguish their name in written form. This can be cited from:

https://www.bunnymen.com/

https://www.youtube.com/@officialechoandthebunnymen#:~:text=URL%3A%20https%3A%2F%2Fwww,100 2601:1C2:5000:8CC7:DC9:BEEF:428D:11C6 (talk) 02:10, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]