The contentious topics procedure applies to this article. This article is related to the Arab–Israeli conflict, which is a contentious topic. Furthermore, the following rules apply when editing this article:
You must be logged-in and extended-confirmed to edit or discuss this topic on any page (except for making edit requests, provided they are not disruptive)
You may not make more than 1 revert within 24 hours on any edits related to this topic
The exceptions to the extended confirmed restriction are:
Non-extended-confirmed editors may use the "Talk:" namespace only to make edit requests related to articles within the topic area, provided they are not disruptive.
Non-extended-confirmed editors may not create new articles, but administrators may exercise discretion when deciding how to enforce this remedy on article creations. Deletion of new articles created by non-extended-confirmed editors is permitted but not required.
With respect to the WP:1RR restriction:
Clear vandalism of whatever origin may be reverted without restriction. Also, reverts made solely to enforce the extended confirmed restriction are not considered edit warring.
Editors who violate this restriction may be blocked by any uninvolved administrator, even on a first offence.
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Palestine, a team effort dedicated to building and maintaining comprehensive, informative and balanced articles related to the geographic Palestine region, the Palestinian people and the State of Palestine on Wikipedia. Join us by visiting the project page, where you can add your name to the list of members where you can contribute to the discussions.PalestineWikipedia:WikiProject PalestineTemplate:WikiProject PalestinePalestine-related articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Philosophy, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of content related to philosophy on Wikipedia. If you would like to support the project, please visit the project page, where you can get more details on how you can help, and where you can join the general discussion about philosophy content on Wikipedia.PhilosophyWikipedia:WikiProject PhilosophyTemplate:WikiProject PhilosophyPhilosophy articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Arab world, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the Arab world on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Arab worldWikipedia:WikiProject Arab worldTemplate:WikiProject Arab worldArab world articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Religion, a project to improve Wikipedia's articles on Religion-related subjects. Please participate by editing the article, and help us assess and improve articles to good and 1.0 standards, or visit the wikiproject page for more details.ReligionWikipedia:WikiProject ReligionTemplate:WikiProject ReligionReligion articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Sociology, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of sociology on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.SociologyWikipedia:WikiProject SociologyTemplate:WikiProject Sociologysociology articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject New York (state), a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the U.S. stateofNew York on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.New York (state)Wikipedia:WikiProject New York (state)Template:WikiProject New York (state)New York (state) articles
Said's response to 1999 Commentary reporting[edit]
Hello, the Palestinian National Council subsection (under the Politics section) currently ends with several lines about an investigation by Commentary in 1999 that seem to call into question Said's "claims" about his "Palestinian boyhood". Said's response to these criticisms is not mentioned. Based on this interview, I would like to suggest an addition at the end of the current section, something like:
"Said responded to these reports, noting that he had described his upbringing as being split between Jerusalem, Cairo and Lebanon in his 1999 memoir, Out of Place. Said claimed that Commentary's investigation was intended to discredit Palestinian activism more broadly, stating: "If they can prove that the leading Palestinian intellectual is a liar, what does this say about the rest of the Palestinians?" 2600:4041:5369:5D00:891C:5A13:4FAC:93A4 (talk) 18:26, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I read the paragraph in the PW article you cite, but it is underwhelming. At most, per WP:BALASP, I would write: Said responded that Commentary's investigation was intended to discredit Palestinian activism by discrediting him. -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:11, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
For anyone who follows this page (or anyone who reviews this sort of thing), do you think this article is still a GA? It looks to me like it has accumulated quite a bit of cruft and varous pet peeves since it was promoted. -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:14, 20 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Looks fine to me. All it needs is a bit of cleaning up for the post 2010 stuff. Cleanitupjanny (talk) 03:02, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
2 editors have already done some cleanup work on it, since I posted the question. Feel free to help out. Happy editing. -- Ssilvers (talk) 03:17, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 21 October 2023[edit]
This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered=or|ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.
I would like to add Edward Said’s son in the info box, Wadie Said, who’s also an accomplished academic. Mauliddin mutz (talk) 07:12, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone may add them for you. By "specific", this means you would provide the exact prose to insert, where to insert it, and relevant reliable sources which support the addition. —Sirdog(talk) 07:19, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"He told me" in a non-peer reviewed essay is hearsay; considering the demonstrable inaccuracies in the source, they can be considered UNDUE, and the source is suspect.
Said's father should be identified as a Palestinian-American. According to the Guardian's obituary "His father Wadie, a Christian, had emigrated to the US before the first world war. He volunteered for service in France and returned to the Middle East as a respectable Protestant businessman - with American citizenship - before making an arranged marriage to the daughter of a Baptist minister from Nazareth.
In Out Of Place (1999), the memoir of his childhood and youth, Said described his father, who called himself William to emphasise his adopted American identity, as overbearing and uncommunicative."
So while Said's father was born in Palestine (during Ottoman times), he emigrated to the US and later gained citizenship during military service. He returned to the region, then under British control, as an American expat to do business. He married a local woman and raised children. But there is no indication Said's father gave up his citizenship in the US despite living and working in Palestine and Egypt.
So he should be identified as Palestinian-American. Compare his identity to that of Shireen Abu Akleh who is identified as "Palestinian-American" because she gained American citizenship during her adulthood but lived most of her life in the Middle East (mostly the Palestinian Territory of the West Bank and also partially in Jordan). If she is Palestinian-American than so is Said's father.
So the sentence "His parents were born in the Ottoman Empire: his mother Hilda Said (née Musa) was half Palestinian and half Lebanese, and was raised in the city of Nazareth; and his father Wadie "William" Said was a Jerusalem-based Palestinian businessman." should instead read "...Wadie "William" Said was a Jerusalem-based Palestinian-American businessman."ItsRainingCatsAndDogsAndMen (talk) 15:43, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
level-4 vital article is rated GA-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone may add them for you. By "specific", this means you would provide the exact prose to insert, where to insert it, and relevant reliable sources which support the addition. —Sirdog (talk) 07:19, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
