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The Mk 7 has a diesel engine, the earlier versions had the petrol engine. Part of the Mk 7 upgrade was in fact the replacement of the petrol engine with a diesel unit. This article mixes specifications of different Marks. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 07:38, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It's all very well to remove my edit as unnecessaryorpointy, Dodge. But I must object to your challenging its accuracy without a source to back your claim up. At least try to debunk the information before you attack it. The Rooikat was brought in to replace the Eland in the early 1990s, too late for service in the Angolan war. Of that I am perfectly aware. However, Mechem Consultants was still working on an Eland upgrade programme in '91. This even spawned the related MC-90/Springbok armoured car prototype, which was based off an improved Eland concept but utilised a Unimog chassis. They didn't actually get good prototypes up and about until '96, and were still trying to offer it as the replacement for the Eland that year. By that point, of course, the SANDF had tired of the vehicle. They wanted something packing heavier firepower and a harder edge (see the article's third source) - which Rooikat offered. In the meantime, however, Elands were still in active service. They weren't withdrawn and relegated to their reserve roles until the mid to late '90s - that was when the SANDF really started trying to market them to other African states (Malawi and even Mozambique were said to be interested, Uganda bought 40). In that sense, SANDF wasn't quite ready to replace the Eland in '90-'91 because they weren't being phased out yet, to be replaced by newer Rooikats. Keep in mind that most of the SANDF's present Rooikat fleet was still in production at this time.
Thanks! --Katangais (talk) 23:03, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hi,
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Thanks, --Katangais (talk) 11:03, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Roger,
Unlike the Rooikat, the Eland is air-portable (the only remaining advantage it could still offer the SANDF in the 2000s), and Heitman - a source you seem to cite frequently - describes in detail a onetime contingency for deploying Eland 90s behind FAPLA lines via parachute during cross-border ops for wreaking havoc on the Angolan rear and harassing reinforcements bound for a primary target.
May I remind you that in Israeli service AML-90s were deployed during the Six Day War from a Nord Noratlas 2501 with scouts of the IDF's para brigade.
Thanks, --Katangais (talk) 18:55, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Saw some pictures on the web the other day of what was described as a captured "AML-20" in service with Iraq. A US soldier apparently took the photographs during Desert Storm. At the time, there was only one operator of Panhard AML-20s that I know of: Ireland, which had Ratel turrets installed in their vehicles by Sandock-Austral. Eland-20s were in service with RSA, Uganda, and Morocco. Seeing as how it's very unlikely that Ireland sold anything to Iraq, this means that Saddam's forces probably operated Eland-20s. They may have bought them off the Ugandans or received them direct from Pretoria; I understand that some G-5s were sold to Iraq during the Iran-Iraq War and a few Elands may have been discreetly shipped off as well.
The photos in question were actually taken in Kuwait, so it's possible that the Kuwaitis operated Eland-20s and they were simply captured by Iraqi troops (as was the case with a number of other light armoured cars). This would make Kuwait a confirmed Eland operator, as well. Interestingly enough, this is the only mention of Elands in Iraq. If any have survived to present day they're probably in a scrapyard.
Thanks, --Katangais (talk) 21:03, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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