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OK, I recently made an edit to the BCP evensong ordo listed in the table on this page to say that it was from the 1552 BCP because I noticed that "Lord, open thou our lips" doesn't appear in the 1549, and the text surrounding suggests that the order is drawn from an early prayerbook. But I woke up this morning and realized that there are other inconsistencies with the 1552 in the ordo listed - for example it doesn't list the Cantemus Domino as an alternative to the Mag, which is in the 1552, and it says that there are preces (which don't appear in the 1552). I've reversed the edit, but it still needs work. I'm not sure which prayer book the table is supposed to be drawn from, but I'm also hesitant to update it because I'm not enough of a prayer book scholar to be CERTAIN that there's not an explanation. Anyone have ideas or thoughts to chime in? Flourish (talk) 11:58, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@andrewnj you were the one who added the table to summarize the Evensong structure; could you shed some light? Flourish (talk) 12:06, 22 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Suggesting to merge Evensong (Unitarian Universalist Association) here. This page is ecumenical now.--Jahaza (talk) 19:45, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree with the merge. They are two completely different things: two very different services in the traditions of two very different religions. They only have a title in common, and even that is arguable. 143.159.197.134 (talk) 16:59, 17 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Closing, given the alternative target arigin from the AfD; see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Evensong (Unitarian Universalist Association). Klbrain (talk) 21:00, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

OK, two points from me:

1. I question the idea that Orthodox services advertised as Vespers end with Compline. I have never been to such a service (maybe it exists somewhere?), especially after a Vigil, since after a Vigil would be the wrong liturgical place in the day to celebrate Compline. I think this may come from a Slavic practice of celebrating Compline after Vespers on Good Friday. Nonetheless, I would recommend removing it, if that is agreeable to others.
2. If we are keeping that sentence in, I think we should add Orthodox Vespers & Compline to the table, since it would provide visual evidence for the claim, would provide a third point of reference and would generally improve understanding of the structure of evening services (which I assume is what the table is trying to do).

Thoughts?Mozartnut (talk) 02:13, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]