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For goodness sake - I never put this entry on this site - do what ever you want. - Jennie McCormick
To those changing this entry - The observatory I own at Farm Cove is an amateur observatory and I am very happy with that title. Please do not change it back to Professional. - Cheers Jennie McCormick.Jen99 Jen 09:39, 23 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Jennie, no offense but should this entry even exist? There are many private amateur observatories around the world, often contributing in a meaningful way to astronomy as you have, but they quite rightly don't get wikispace. Why should your own? It sets a precedent: do all private and amateur observatories deserve a Wiki entry? How about schools, etc? Just some food for thought.210.55.81.117 12:15, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Reference to the Sky & Telescope article emphasises the contribution made to the planet discovery by two amateur astronomers using small telescopes - in a field where "small telescope" usually means a 1m class instrument. The FCO telescope is only 0.25m so this is a notable achievement on a number of levels.
The last amateur astronomer to discover a planet was Sir William Herschel when he found Uranus in 1781. He then became very famous. The FCO telescope is therefore the smallest telescope to contribute to the discovery of a planet.
A review of the entries in the ADS system (http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abstract_service.html)under "McCormick, J" shows that FCO has contributed data to at least 7 major papers in peer-reviewed astronomical and astrophysical publications.
Therefore FCO is clearly a notable amateur observatory that has an established record of success that has been recognised internationally.
It is certainly not a "professional" observatory but that is no criteria for notability.
Only two amateur astronomers contributed to the discover of the planet - not the many suggested by 210.54.197.158 This was the first time since 1781 that amateurs had achieved this is notable.
Observatories are known and recognised by their names, not by the names of the people who happen to operate the telescope. FCO is the appropriate way to describe this facility - not "jennie". 219.88.175.78 21:05, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
To the cowardly person from the South Island who chooses to hide behind a IP number, if you are going to change this entry, please make sure you have the correct information before doing so. Seems to me you are nothing but a dishonest vandal with jelously to vent. ~Jennie~
Do you guys have nothing better to do? If you are such a fan of Wikipedia why not go and find other sites to waste your time on - just remember not to make it personal as you have been doing here. Could you also explain to me please what in your Wikipedia experience a professional observtory is? P.S If someone is going to put my work and observatory on this site then of course I am going to correct the errors in the entry. Jennie McCormickJen 10:28, 26 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
![]() | This article was nominated for deletion on 06 Jan 2006. The result of the discussion was no consensus (default to keep). |
What's going on here? Isn't this just another home observatory in the burbs? What's with the edit war? Somebody seems to be trying to portray this thing as way more than it is. ("FCO"? Gimme a break! The lady has a 10" Meade!) Is this amateur's personal observatory directly affiliated with a College or University or is it just a personal hobby? There are a ton of those in just about every country and they don't spend so much time trying to build themselves up on Wiki as the person behind this observatory does. If you browse the sites of those amateurs it's obvious that most of them are also part of some project or ongoing survey or other and have done good work too, so in other words they are no different or better or worse than this private deal you're slugging it out over. This has all the hallmarks of huge egos with too much spare time on their hands. VfD this or write it up accurately: a private individual's personal observatory in the suburbs with a small off-the-shelf telescope, and which sometimes contributes data to a research project or two. Just like a lot of other amateur astronomers do. 216.11.0.254 22:31, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The Farm Cove Observatory is a genuine astronomical observatory, in the sense that it is a place where a telescope is situated permanently, where Jennie McCormick and her numerous individual and institutional collaborators engage in contributing to meaningful, peer-reviewed research, which contributes to the general body of astronomical academic knowledge, and advances in our understanding of specific and important astrophysical processes. If anyone would like to verify this, please try an author-name journal search using 'McCormick, J.', with any of the common reference and citation indices available on the internet, e.g. the NASA ADS. Cheers, Paul Warhurst, Dept of Physics, University of Auckland, New Zealand. 130.216.54.109 06:58, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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