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I believe that Bridgestone's "wins" that they have "achieved" in 2008 should not count towards the records below. With F1's unfortunate move to being an official single-tyre series, I move that these wins have not been earned fairly (in contrast to 2007 when F1 was still officially open tyre but Michelin withdrew a year early voluntarily). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.171.89.178 (talk) 15:58, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Why did Michelin stop? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Billclinty (talk • contribs) 09:27, August 23, 2007 (UTC).
I think that it would be much better if we used the American version without the Y Elakhna 22:07, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
What's going on with the text in the References section? To me, the text for references 9-12 appears as:
9. ^ Goodyear was sole tyre supplier in F1 from Formula One-2009 and Formula One car-tyres.
10. ^ Bridgestone provided tyres in a limited capacity at the history of Formula One and Formula One, then for the full season from 1997 onwards
11. ^ Bridgestone was sole tyre supplier in F1 from 2005-2005 United States Grand Prix and in slick tyre-Bridgestone
12. ^ Firestone was sole tyre supplier at the Michelin races from 2007 European Grand Prix-Safety Car.
Does everyone else see that too? Or am I going crazy? DH85868993 (talk) 01:35, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Done a bit of searching on the web, but couldn't find any info about the qualifying tyres that were used in F1 until the early '90s(?) - tyres that were basically good for two laps and started to fall apart on the in-lap. Anyone recall any details about them, or better still got some references? AlexJ (talk) 23:42, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like they brought sets of those to the canadian gp at the weekend :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.200.27.77 (talk) 05:06, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The link for Avon points to Avon Rubber which does not make tyres. It appears that the link should point to Avon Tyres, which itself is a redirect to Cooper Tire & Rubber Company. Cooper purchased the tyre business from Avon Rubber in 1997. BTW, Avon Rubber has several hundred links, many of them are F1 articles.--The Three Headed Knight (talk) 04:27, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
With the knock-out qualifying rules currently in place, the drivers that make it to Q3 are required to start on their qualifying tyres, whereas knocked out drivers from Q1 and Q2 do not. This also allows the knocked out drivers to have one or two extra sets of unused tyres that can be used in the race. While this was not an issue with the durable Bridgestone tyres, with the current design of Pirelli tyres that are less durable to increase overtaking and differing strategies, the extra sets of tires available to lower qualifiers has introduced a significant advantage.
My question is whether or not all or part of this should be included somewhere in the article, perhaps in a section about tyre rules. Another comment, a little off topic, perhaps, is that the History section should be split up. Perhaps a new section is warranted regarding tyre markings, given the detail about Bridgestone's coloured grooves and the current system in place with Pirelli's differently coloured logos and new stripes. This could actually also be a sub-heading under rules, since it is in place purely because of the mandatory two-compound rule (which should also be mentioned).
Thoughts? :-) Malcolm33 (talk) 21:11, 26 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Does anyone know anything about the reasons for the profile of F1 tyres, who could add something to the article? Normally, racers and boy-racers have very low-profile 'gumball' tyres, but F1 cars have very high profile tyres: why? Some things I've seen in other contexts are that increased air-volume allows better heat-retention, and that high-profile tyres are used in higher-pressure situations - although that surely isn't the case here. 94.170.107.247 (talk) 22:21, 5 September 2011 (UTC) Dave[reply]
Right now, the overall positions of the manufacturers are decided by wins, but I think it would really make more sense to order it by constructors' championships, mostly since each season has a different number of races. Wins could still be a tiebreaker. –Ugncreative Usergname (talk) 05:36, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I’m sorry but what kind of F-1 tire “history” only goes back 15 years. F-1 tires (or “tyres” if you prefer British English) have changed a lot in the past 60 years and most of the major advances in tire technology occurred prior to the 1980's. In fact, it might be interesting to point out that radial tires were not used on F-1 cars until the 1980’s, long after they were standard equipment on street cars. Part of the reason for this is that the advantages of radials are much less pronounced in racing tires. For example when using a 70 or 80 series cross-ply tire on a narrow rim (typical in the 60’s and early 70’s on street cars) parts of the tread would lift slightly in hard cornering and this would reduce overall grip. In a low profile racing tire mounted on a rim which is wider than the tread width however (typical of racing tires) there is virtually no difference in grip between cross-ply tires and radial tires. Anyway, early attempts to make radial F1 tires that could perform as well as the existing cross-ply tires were not successful. I can’t remember who made the first radial F1 tires to actually be used but I think it may have been Bridgestone. Slobeachboy (talk) 22:04, 26 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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User:65.35.100.219 has pointed out that the Pirelli website identifies the compound between "Medium" and "Superhard" as "Ice" (with a colour of "blue"). I respectfully suggest that is an error on Pirelli's webpage - every media report I've ever seen has referred to the compound as "hard" and the colour as "ice blue", e.g. [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6]. Thoughts? DH85868993 (talk) 21:14, 16 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Found this tyre description from Ferarri. Compound is referred to as "Ice" by them. https://i.redd.it/sug19yuc6xr11.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.35.100.219 (talk) 23:52, 16 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Currently the table looks like this,
No. | Compound name | Colour | Tread | Driving conditions | Grip | Durability | |
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1 | C1 (Hardest) | ![]() |
White (without stripe) | Slick | Dry | 5 - Least grip | 1 - Most Durable |
2 | C2 (Hard) | ![]() |
White (with stripe) | 4 | 2 | ||
3 | C3 (Medium) | ![]() |
Yellow | 3 | 3 | ||
4 | C4 (Soft) | ![]() |
Red (with stripe) | 2 | 4 | ||
5 | C5 (Softest) | ![]() |
Red (without stripe) | 1 – Most grip | 5 – Least durable | ||
6 | Intermediate | ![]() |
Green | Treaded | Wet (light standing water) | — | — |
7 | Wet | ![]() |
Blue | Wet (heavy standing water) | — | — |
but this is not stricly true, the above only applies for testing where all 5 compounds are available, at any one grand prix C3 might be the softest tyre, this means it will be refered to as the soft and it will have a red side wall coloured in, at the next racce it might be the harest available trye and will therefore be refered to as hard and have a white sidewall. However I can't think of a clear way to reprsent this information, for now I will try to place it in prose but I think it could be improved, thoughts? SSSB (talk) 12:10, 21 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Wasn't there also a 'super soft' type available in 2019, with a purple colour scheme? Was definitely available for use in the official F1 game representing that season. 51.52.43.171 (talk) 17:05, 10 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Lists pre 1993 rear tires as 15 inches wide, then states rear tires were reduced from 18 to 15 inches post 1993.
It’s a contradiction. The truth is that pre 1993 rear tires were 18 inches wide. 213.46.66.66 (talk) 02:11, 23 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
“ | During the turbo era and until 1992, Goodyear supplied white sidewall marked Eagle tyres with the sizes of 25.0"x10.0"-13" (overall diameter x width) in the front and 26.0"x15.0"-13" in the rear.[3] For the 1993 season, the maximum section width of the rear tyres was reduced from 18" to 15", prompting Goodyear to change to yellow sidewall markings to correspond to the new, narrower tyres. | ” |
This paragraph doesn't make much sense. It basically says tyres were 15" in 1992, then they were 15" again in 1993 but they were narrower. Are there more accurate references that say what the dimensions were in the early 1990s? Bobi.1 23:38, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
We claim Pirelli have done 410 races, Forix claim 415 (according to this diff: Special:Diff/1049357500) and F1stat claim 411. ([7], as of today). If we can't find a source for our 410 we should change it to something that can be sourced. I don't have access to Forix, but it may be worth working out where the discrepency comes from (I know F1stat doesn't count no starts in this total, maybe this is where the difference comes from, that there was a race Pirelli entered and didn't start?). Until this can be worked out (assuming it does), a footnote might be warranted, clarifying that different sources list a different number of GPs in which Pirelli competed. SSSB (talk) 11:51, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The current table presents the info about as well as possible given the complexity involved (well done to all who participated!), but I have one small criticism. The Grip and Durability columns are numbered from '6 Least grip' to '1 Most grip', and '1 Most durable' to '6 Least durable'. It seems to me that it would be more logical to reverse those numbers, unless they derive from some official source, but I don't see them mentioned in the Pirelli webpage cited. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 5.64.160.67 (talk) 03:32, 16 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]