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Wanted: Picture of Elvis Presley in Grafenwöhr

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xTerminator2000 14:43, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Mention in literature: 1634: The Bavarian Crisis by Eric Flint and Virginnia DeMarche, Baen (Riverdale: 2007), p. 98-99. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DOR (HK) (talk • contribs) 13:53, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding this and the following edit:

To illustrate an articles subject, images are without doubt essential. But illustration should not appear as an adornment, they must have encyclopedic value and add to the reader's understanding of the subject (Please see Wikipedia:IG#Image_galleries and Wikipedia:MOSIMAGES#Images!!). The relevance of the following pictures is not visible for the reader (1, 2, 3). Picture No3 doesn't even show any relation to Graf in the files summary, No1/No2 could have been made anywhere and are therefore (without citing the opposite) not useful for illustrating the article about a town. Larger galleries can be created on Commons and linked in the article (that's why we have the Template:Commons cat). Furthermore an image should have (to some degree) at least a certain quality (see again No2). Regarding these points I would like to hear coherent arguments regarding the reset shown in the link at the beginning. “Add to the article, don't take away from it.” is a spurious argument, as not the length or the ammount of images makes quality. I have shown several policies which underline my position. Nevertheless, greetings from 30 miles northwest of Grafenwoehr, --Tafkas (talk) 16:21, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the pictures according to wikipedia policies. --Tafkas (talk) 17:58, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

very cool article. I like this, and it's much more informative than your one about the mountain, although I liked that too. I've upgrade this from stub to start. I'm suggesting some possible things here for you to do to move it along.

1. although I "suggested" some changed headings, I'm not all that happy with them either. The history goes from "early days" (dates unknown) to the 20th century. A lot happened between starting a village in a marsh and now. I made some minor changes in links and stuff (Thumbach stream, for example, bach=creek or brook or stream, soooooo). This needs fleshing out -- the past. Possibly an explanation of why three different counts?
2. the civilian community, I think, should be featured closer to the front -- it's almost an afterthought and I don't think you actually mean it to be, it just happened that way. One way to deal with this might be to set up your lead to talk about the location as twinned communities, one civilian, and one military, and put that right up front in the lead. Then, in the first paragraph of your elaborated article, start with the civilian community -- how big is it, agriculture etc. THEN go into the complimentary military community.
3. geography etc. this could be elaborated some more, maybe average temperatures, average snowfalls, etc.
4. famous visitors -- this needs citations, and dates. Elvis sang some song or other....I had to chuckle at that!
5. captions for your pictures. Illustrations are good, and they can be used to show what life is like in the town--both from the civilian standpoint and from the military standpoint. You must have pictures.

enough ideas? Nice job. drop me a line back, and I'll come back and re-eval! --Auntieruth55 (talk) 00:28, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Elivs at Grafenwöhr My understanding is if the picture is necessary for the article, and furthers the information, it's usually fair use. You might also contact the owners of these pictures and see if he/she will release them for wikipedia.

I think also that your material on the allied bombing attack is perhaps understated. It sounds like there was a huge stockpile of poison gas at the rail road station was destroyed, and over 100 soldiers killed (?) plus some civilians.

another idea to explore: there is by this time a symbiotic relationship between the town and the military. Something must be written on it. --Auntieruth55 (talk) 00:40, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This article has serious conflicts of interest. Why? The article is trying to depict two different things: the German civilian town of Grafenwäohr and the 7th U.S. Army Joint Multinational Training Command's very large training area. A military Town and Gown situation. I don't know if a wiki article exists that details the symbiotic relationship between a military base and a civilian town. This was mentioned by User:Auntieruth55 on 2 July 2009 on this talk page

In it's present form the article can't do justice to both. I suggest that the training area be hived off into a seperate article. I'm sure that there is sufficient material to support a good article on the civilian town (actually a city under German municipal organizational laws). Further, I don't know for sure, but from a little surfing, it seems that there are US military sites which would support an good article on the training site.--TGC55 (talk) 16:27, 7 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

a separate article seems reasonable to me, although it could also be subsumed into this one fairly easily by creating its own section (I'd rather seem them separated, though, if you can do justice to both). Auntieruth55 (talk) 20:02, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Grafenwöhr is well in the area of these gentlemens political activity, so it's only natural, that they were here once in a while. Mentioning it in the article is as redundant as mentioning that JFK has been seen in Washington DC. There must be thousands of places each of them visited, shall we mention that on every of those articles? Besides also Hitler's travelling was restricted during WW2 and so it's much likelier that his visit was before 1939, so that would need quotation! --92.77.157.120 (talk) 20:54, 1 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The current article text contains:

”The Grafenwöhr Army Airfield provides air flow to all air traffic requesting services including but not limited C-130's from the 37th Airlift Squadron at Ramstein AB, Germany.”

The use of the word(s) “air flow” in this context strikes me as odd; I interpret those words as “flow of air”, but “air traffic guidance” or “air traffic flow” was probably intended. Please help out to determine the intended meaning. (My command of English is not bad, but I am not a mother tongue speaker, and there might just be another use for the words “air flow” that I am not aware of and have not managed to find in the web.Redav (talk) 03:03, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]