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The article states that the harlem shake evolved into the [[chicken noodle soup (dance)chicken soup dance, but I don't see any connection between these two styles/techniques besides both originating from Harlem. - Wintran ^(talk) 08:18, 15 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This article was written by idiots. My god! Read books people. You are functionally illiterate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.107.1.20 (talk) 20:06, 5 March 2007‎ (UTC)[reply]

It didn't evolve into the Chicken noodle soup at all. Also, it became popular with "Who's That Girl" by Eve which came out before "Let's Get It" 24.63.133.140 02:02, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone write a better description of how to do the harlem shake? I have no idea what it is; I came here to find out, and the description is no use at all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.103.201.244 (talk) 22:07, 27 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

no. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.230.12.93 (talk) 14:26, 23 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I came to this article hoping to find out what the Harlem Shake is and how to do it. I have no idea how to perform this even after having read the description though a number of times. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.114.2.161 (talk) 23:05, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

i removed the "how it's done" section (which was completely uninformative anyway) until it can be done in compliance with wikipedia composition and style standards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.208.132.221 (talk) 04:45, 3 December 2008‎ (UTC)[reply]

Also, WP:NOTHOWTO. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 15:47, 17 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

With regards to the "Not How To" link - it doesn't need to give step by step instructions, but the basic movements of a dance are fairly important in a description of what a dance actually is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.12.195.151 (talk) 07:20, 12 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Bauer article may soon need a link to this article in its See also section, because Baauer's (yes, double-a) song Harlem Shake is becoming fairly popular. And, obviously, this article would then also need to mention the recent YouTube craze. --82.170.113.123 (talk) 16:54, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Couple of links: the Know Your Meme page here, Reddit thread here, CollegeHumor page here. --82.170.113.123 (talk) 17:06, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps someone could add a section on the Harlem Shake meme that became popular in early February 2013? 137.112.157.84 (talk) 02:35, 12 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Harlem Shake dance is not the same as the dance in the video, and has a different cultural context than the meme. The video and meme deserve their own page. The actual dance is hilariously demonstrated on YouTube Useless.miscellany (talk) 06:57, 12 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Azealia Banks freestyle is over the Baauer song and has nothing to do with the dance ie. wrong article

198.84.196.77 (talk) 17:54, 15 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think this article needs to be Semi-protected. Vandalism is getting out of control. Wethar555 (talk) 21:42, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Y Done Someone took care of it a few minutes before your comment. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 15:31, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"For the viral video phenomenon, see Harlem Shake (meme)."

Should be removed from the top of the page. The disambiguation page already states that.

The meme is a week old, does it deserve a whole page, and it's reference "spammed" on a 6 year old page? What happened to notable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.203.36.3 (talk) 04:28, 23 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed it. For people coming in from the "harlem shake" query, they should already be able reach the article on the meme through the disambiguation page. - M0rphzone (talk) 19:52, 23 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Many things aren't as they should be. After reading the feedback for the four pages, I concluded that many people don't know what a meme is, and didn't know after reaching the end of this article (perhaps more by scrolling than by reading), so I had done this. Examples:

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Another thing I noticed was the Harlem shake disambiguation page showing up under "Recent lows" on Special:ArticleFeedback. —rybec 03:54, 28 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I just added the section, if you don't like the layout or the form of the text, feel free to beautify it; just don't delete the section: I heard many people are asking for the instructions section to be added, which I did. I referenced the mahalo.com page, too. They explain the shake nicely there, and quite professionally. Thanks? Don't mention it! :) Boky (talk) 14:10, 24 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And they've been removed by Lester Foster. Thanks for your efforts, but you may want to review Wikipedia policies again as Wikipedia is not a guide or how-to site. - M0rphzone (talk) 08:59, 25 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I added the link back, under "External links." Other Wikipedia articles about dance usually describe the movements, occasionally in a "how to" style, so an exception to WP:NOTHOWTO could perhaps be gotten. However, just copy-pasting from other sites isn't allowed. —rybec 01:31, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, OK. So I guess I was violating the copy-paste part... I don't really have the time to read the policies, but I guess it was that. I just provided some content. Could someone then 'rephrase' the text from there? Boky (talk) 14:10, 27 February 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.222.53.195 (talk) [reply]

I removed the hatnote per WP:NAMB. The parenthetical "(dance)" makes the name unambiguous; no one will type in the phrase "Harlem shake (dance)" looking for the other articles (if they do, then the parenthetical needs to be changed). The other articles are already found through the disambiguation page Harlem Shake (disambiguation).--Cúchullain ^t/c 15:08, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I see I've been reverted again. Can you please explain why the hatnote needs to be there in contradiction to the usual style and practice?--Cúchullain ^t/c 15:17, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The hatnote is also improperly formatted. Baauer should not be linked; only the ambiguous article is linked.--Cúchullain ^t/c 15:19, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted you because the article is very popular and every minute is important.
Reformat the hatnote, but please don't remove.
I've been writing this explanation:

1. People don't come here just from the disambiguation page. The also come from Google search, etc. We can't predict the search terms they will use and what results they will get.
2. The meme is also a dance and a song.

   Or rather, the meme includes a/the dance and the song. The dance is not the real Harlem shake, but there are similarities, so it is possible that the Australian guys had seen it before.

3. The word "meme" might not be understood by everyone.
4. The disambiguation page doesn't explain anything.
5. Look at the view statistics: Harlem shake (meme), Harlem shake (dance), Harlem Shake (song). The numbers are very comparable, it doesn't look like everyone goes to the meme article first.
6. Even if everyone understood the difference, it would still be convenient if we interlinked all the three articles in the hatnotes. --Moscow Connection (talk) 15:49, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If you are 100% sure that the song should be removed, let's remove the song... I'm only sure that the meme should stay, I don't know about the song. --Moscow Connection (talk) 15:54, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The point is that the parentheses distinguish the articles from one another. If your argument is they don't distinguish each other enough, then you should start a discussion to change them to something that does. The hat note doesn't fix that problem. It's also distracting and not particularly helpful considering it doesn't say anything that's not already at Harlem shake (disambiguation). I see someone else removed it before and you reverted them; as the one restoring the challenged material it's really on you to defend it.--Cúchullain ^t/c 16:35, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'll remove the song now. It does look distracting. I don't think the hatnote is "material" (article text), it's just a hatnote. As you can see, I have a long list of reasons to leave it in. Maybe the other person who tried to remove it was just a random visitor. I participated a little bit in writing the meme article, and I must say that it was very hard to explain what the meme was. I think the lead of that article is still confusing and a person who doesn't know what Internet memes are won't understand. If you insist about the other hatnote, I think there should be a serious discussion about it. I don't think anything can be done about disambiguating the topics better cause 1. the meme is a dance; 2. the word "meme" is rather confusing to many people. --Moscow Connection (talk) 17:19, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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External Links

• Harlem Shake at Wedding Receptions

96.25.122.219 (talk) 23:08, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Wikipedia is not a link repository and there are already several example videos linked to already. BryanG (talk) 02:33, 11 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

All claims referenced in this article about Harlem Shake's origins in Eskista all refer back to one article on dancejam.com, which is now defunct. A simple close look at the motions involved in the Harlem Shake (side-to-side arm movement, alternately lifting one shoulder then the other) versus in Eskista (keeping both shoulders level and keeping arms mostly still) makes it clear that they're probably unrelated. Can we just remove the section claiming that they're related? Or put a disclaimer? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashleyisachild (talk • contribs) 06:09, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not concerned that the web page is no longer active (especially since the citation points to a copy at archive.org), although I do wonder whether it was a reliable source in the first place. It appears that the original site consisted of user-generated content; see WP:SPS. However, it also cites ABC News, although that article was written after this information appeared on Wikipedia (and, for that matter, the original website). Call me cynical but I have to wonder where ABC got their information. If the text is to remain, then I believe we should specify "ABC News says that..." rather than the current wording mentioning it as a straightforward fact. I will go ahead and make the edit. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 13:58, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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The Harlem shake was originally called the shake created in 1981 on soul train by Myron Montgomery. Prlydell (talk) 22:00, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Stickee (talk) 23:52, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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