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If I understand correctly, the "empty bullet", or the bottom part of the unshot bullet flies out fast. Why does that compromise the military use? Several meters doesn't sound like much either. Is the article trying to say that the sideways recyle is too substantial for multiple shots at the same target or target area? Please elaborate. —kooo July 2, 2005 21:38 (UTC)
Is it possible that the metallic glint of the casing could give away the position of a military sniper? I've heard that's a reason why the military favors bolt action rifles--the casing can be ejected when the sniper feels it is most safe to do so.--Daveswagon 3 July 2005 06:14 (UTC)
Thats a good point, and (as Kooo was good enough to guess/contact me) I did write this. What I was talking about was the empty bullet casing (or empty shell), being ejected (after firing) with force enough to throw it a good distance, at least substantially longer then regular semi-auto precision rifles. Herein lies the problem with the statment (that you have rightly questioned) - Although I remember quite positively reading that one (of a few) reason(s) the psg-1 was unsuitable for use by military snipers was the ejecting brass could give away the soldiers position. From memory, the article stated the brass was thrown 20 yards after firing, although because I can't find the reference, I couldn't go so far as to write something so specific on memory. Unfortunatly I can't confirm this (as I have never fired a psg-1, again unfortunatly) so I it's open to revision if you don't think this is substantial enough. Essjay-R 3 July 2005 15:58 (UTC)
I must also add, aside from simply hurling bullet casings around I also can only guess why this would be a particular problem. Noise or movement I assumed, however why this is a problem when you've just fired a large rifle is anyones guess. Essjay-R 3 July 2005 16:07 (UTC)
Great, case solved :-) —kooo July 5, 2005 18:43 (UTC)
i don't see any issue here
a case catcher can be applied to the weapon -> problem solved --Kehool (talk) 10:46, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I believe that besides Metal Gear Solid, the "sniper" light gun featured in the Silent Scope series are at least based on the PSG-1.
Exactly...we dont want the PSG article to turn into a video game article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.232.189.245 (talk) 01:28, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have moved the list of references to films/tv/video games to a new pages and replaced the section with a link to it. This is to keep it the article clean and uniform with other similar articles and List of firearms in video games pages. (see Heckler & Koch MP5 / Heckler & Koch MP5 in popular cultureorMAC-10 / MAC-10 in popular culture) for similar ...in popular culture pages) and also to help with inclusion into the List of firearms in filmsDeon Steyn 09:50, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Why is the PSG/90 under "See also"? Aside from the small similarities in the abbreviations and names, does these rifles even have anything to do with eachother? 213.64.18.236 16:31, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
No. The PSG/90 is a bolt-action rifle made by Accuracy International for the Sweden military. The PSG-1 is semi-automatic. The only thing that they have in common is that they are both "sniper" rifles that fire the 7.62mm cartridge.--Davidwiz 18:27, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
--- AHEM. Correction to your correction. The standard cartridges for the AWM (or PSG90) is the .338 Lapua Magnum! The only other cartradegs it uses is 7mm Remington Magnum and .300 Win. Mag. ---
I would like to propose that the article Heckler & Koch MSG-90 be merged into this article per WP:GUNS#Variants, as there is not enough difference in design, or enough history to justify having a separate article.--LWF (talk) 03:12, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Enough history!?!?! I started the original article on the MSG-90. I do not know where to begin.
Stick to talking and wrting about the civilian or 'sport' version of these weapons.
These weapons were developed for professional military usage. One of the reasons why I no longer edit the page, is this constant changing of the page on a regular basis by the 'sports'.
I am not a 'sport', nor is what I do a 'sport'.
The G3 should be the main article.
Both PSG1 and MSG-90 are derived from the G3, they should be merged under this heading.
The PSG1 is an expensive, percisely machined (tolerance .001) and sensitive device (because of the tolerance), supposedly developed for the snipers role, it was too prone to malfunctions in harsh environments and too expensive for marketing.
The MSG-90 is the 'insensitive' (still at .001 tolerance) military version of the G3 (or G3A4ZF), sharing a common father with the PSG1, one having nothing to do with the other.
Drop the word cheaper...
Urban Legegnd: "(The PSG1) is said to have been developed in response to the Munich Massacre at the 1972 Summer Olympics." —Preceding unsigned comment added by SSG HT Simpson (talk • contribs) 15:57, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, if the official materials state that it is a variant then I will go ahead with the merge, since this clearly falls under WP:GUNS#Variants.--LWF (talk) 01:40, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Which would be more accurate? According to this article, the PSG-1 is much more expensive, and in my my world, more expensive, more better. Thecutnut (talk) 19:12, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
forsakenex - Sept 24, 2008 6:21 PM In this case, the more expensive is not the best. The Arctic Warfare Magnum is the better gun. It is built to perform in some of the most extreme conditions on Earth due to it's slightly modified bolt which will never freeze if oil on the bolt greases up. It has a nicer stock, (I think) which is very comfortable. It can even be bought by the public without any sort of liscense, from tacproshootingcenter.com. You can buy it in 4 calibers, .243; .308; 300 Win. Mag; and the standard .338 Lapua Magnum. I would recommend something besides the .308 since the military is thinking of dropping it. The .243 could perform and group twice as better as the .308 at 800 yards. And you cannot buy a PSG-1 for civilian use. And the PSG-1 was originally a counter-terrorism weapon, made for medium range accurate shots in a urban enviorment. The AW just stands up better in the long range shooting, especially with the .338 LM, where as the PSG-1 is stuck with the 7.62 (.308).
as the PSG-90 is a bolt action rifle and the PSG1 is semi automatic the AW wins in the accuracy department
the PSG1 has other obvious advantages tho
to say the PSG-90 is better simply based on accuracy is biased --Kehool (talk) 10:41, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
How can everybody here be calling cartridge casings bullet casings? I believe in the first sentence of the bullet article tht a bullet is not a catridge. Add to that the fact that the article on bullets was linked in the PSG1 article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.251.79.53 (talk) 23:27, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Probably, it's sad how little people know about firearms. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.232.189.245 (talk) 01:22, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The Philippines does operate PSG-1s if u want heres a Photo to prove it[1]. Notice that 1 of the soldiers has a PSG-1. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.92.130.249 (talk) 01:17, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Try telling that to Wikipedia user Edward Sandsting. You can contact him on the Philippine Army discussion page or the Philippine Air Force Discussion page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.37.68.81 (talk) 10:16, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
LOL Smart one. That's an MSG-90. And the wood stock gun is an M14. And the guy behind the M14 guy is using an Uzi SMG. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.232.189.245 (talk) 01:24, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Just found today that there is another article about the Heckler & Koch MSG-90 that escaped our notice when we merged it into this article. This one is just titled MSG-90, and once again I propose that it be merged into this article, per WP:GUNS#Variants.--LWF (talk) 20:27, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Removed following (at best, needs sourcing - are prices encyclopedic?):
($9,000 USD per rifle)
--Technopat (talk) 10:09, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
10,000 dollars USD (1996) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:HK_Magazine-_The_Sentinel_(1996).jpg Tomketchum (talk) 03:50, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The article offers "precision protection rifle" as the translation for "the compound word Präzisionsschützengewehr". In this context『schützen』is the plural form of the noun『Schütze』(rifleman or marksman) not as the verb Schützen (To protect). I would suggest changing the translation to "precision marksman rifle" or similar. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.98.90.28 (talk) 13:45, 11 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The article states that the German elite counter terrorist unit GSG 9 would not use the PSG1. I have a book about the GSG9 and there are pictures of GSG 9 snipers using the PSG1... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.11.233.5 (talk) 08:01, 3 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]
when using lines like this: "In tests conducted by the United States Army Infantry Board in 1982, the PSG1, referred to as a "semi-automatic, delayed-blowback operated weapon used by a foreign Special Forces organization""
please make sure the sources given actually support it.
i found no mention of the PSG1 in said report so unless there's a source that states the rifle mentioned is in fact the PSG1 this statement is not vindicable Kehool (talk) 10:42, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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As a result of the goverment import ban, no more PSG-1 rifles are being imported into the US for civilian sales. I've wondered: If the rifle cannot be imported, why didn't Heckler & Koch produce rifles in the US for civilian sales? 175.141.203.145 (talk) 15:27, 14 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Under Denmark why would the MSG90 be considered obsolite? "Danish special forces have in a few public events in the 1990s been photographed with MSG90 versions but they are now obsolete." 24.119.213.102 (talk) 03:36, 24 April 2019 (UTC) 24.119.213.102 (talk) 03:40, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Lanka_Army#Infantry_weapons — Preceding unsigned comment added by NotPedanticReally (talk • contribs) 19:10, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
No mention of West Germany/Germany? Germans did not use it? Chwyatt (talk) 21:00, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]