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This is my first Wikipedia article. So, I'm still learning the ropes. Hopefully I can get some help on this one. I will have a hard time being un-bias. My tendency is to be highly critical of Andelin. It surprises me that an article didn't exist until now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jperry1 (talk • contribs) 17:18, July 12, 2006

Hello, Everyone!

I'm Cynthia Berenger (Mrs. James Berenger), and I expanded this article on Helen Andelin. The article is no longer orphaned. Mrs. Andelin remains a woman of note and deserving of an entry in this online encyclopedia. I never put any "peacock terms" in the article, so none existed to remove. I am adding connection terms, and I have cited multiple sources for my information. Further, I am linking the article to other articles on Wikipedia. That's why I removed all the old content and all the banners at the top. They no longer apply. I hope you enjoy reading! Cynthia Berenger 03:58, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Article still needs wikifying per WP:MOS, so that tag has been restored. Article still sounds full of itself with flowery unsourced praise, so {{peacock}} is restored. Article is still only linked to by 2 other articles, so {{Orphan}} is restored. If you need help in addressing these issues, I'll be happy to try to help you out... Valrith 13:02, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There are now five articles pointing to this page: Latter-day Saints, 1920 (people born in), BYU alumni, antifeminism, patriarchy. In addition, I believe I made over a dozen links from this article to other pages. What is the magic number? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.81.50.152 (talk • contribs) 23:41, August 8, 2007

• There is no "magic number". If you feel 5 is sufficient (I'd agree), state that argument here and remove the {{Orphan}} tag... Valrith 20:30, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There's been quite a lot written on her and her book in journals, other books, etc., so IMO the sources could be improved (they're currently mostly websites). --Delirium 01:53, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Delirium, Thanks for your comment. I referenced the academic work in the article about the book. Not a lot, biographically speaking, has been written on Mrs. Andelin as she has mostly led a non-public life for almost thirty years. However, now that her papers are available at the U of U, I hope that a qualified biographer will take an interest and write a fair and balanced biography. Cynthia Berenger

Inthe last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :)

• "papers" :
  • [http://db3-sql.staff.library.utah.edu/lucene/Manuscripts/null/Accn0551.xml/complete Helen B. Andelin Papers<!-- Bot generated title -->]
  • (see above)

DumZiBoT (talk) 05:36, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone please provide the source for the following, "It is being used as a method to get women into the mormon church. At the very least to add to their database of people to be baptised for in proxy." Not only do these sentences seem out of tone with the entire posting but they seem to be a complete flight of bias. If some have claimed that Andelin used her seminars to recruit members to the LDS faith than stating such would be acceptable. The second claim is almost completely without an ability to verify and can in no way be a substantiated fact. Regards - daveescaped —Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.189.193.3 (talk) 13:05, 9 June 2009 (UTC) To Daveescaped: I could be wrong, but I don't believe that anyone provide a source for it because so far as I know the allegations are untrue. My belief is based on over a decade's acquaintance with Mrs. Andelin. C BerengerCynthia Berenger (talk) 05:55, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you to whoever added this feature. It greatly improved the appearance of the page.Cynthia Berenger (talk) 06:04, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Cynthia! ↜Just M E here , now 07:03, 10 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]