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1 Missing history?  
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2 Dead Link  
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3 The Term Holocaust  
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4 DVD Release  
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5 Starring - James Woods  
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6 Other airings?  
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7 negative response?  
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8 Dorff  
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9 Plot summary - too long? IMHO: no  
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10 Budget  
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Missing history?

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Only seen clips of the TV show and the miniseries being talked about. Doesn't the title also trivialize those who died in the camps who were not Jewish. Also got panned for trivializing Jewish tradegy itself. Alexsanderson83 11:17, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • I just watched the first episode, and it does cover non-Jewish casualties as well, for example in a scene where you see a group of handicapped people being gassed, and every group that was made victim by the Nazis are mentioned. Funkynusayri 20:28, 9 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Dead link: The Holocaust Television Series http://www.theholocaust.tv/ Green Idea Factory 11:42, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Term Holocaust

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This term has been used at least since the fifties. Please don't insert undocumented statements like this, saying it began with this mini-series. Rosencomet (talk) 19:24, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually the term was even used in the 1940s and even earlier! The six million figure was already in use before World War Two: https://archive.org/details/TheFirstHolocaustTheSurprisingOriginOfTheSixMillionFigure --105.8.4.119 (talk) 12:51, 19 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Holocausto es sacrificio. Es un término que alude al sacrificio de corderos en el antiguo Israel como ofrenda a Dios en el Templo de Jerusalén. La palabra hebrea es "shoá". Por lo tanto, la expresión holocausto es milenaria. Y aplicada al genocidio perpetrado por la Alemania nazi contra los judíos de Europa data, obviamente, de la postguerra mundial. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.39.48.112 (talk) 01:06, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DVD Release

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The TV miniseries is currently available on DVD. It was released not too long ago and it can be purchased on Amazon and several other online outlets. I am going to update the article with the DVD release. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Frschoonover (talkcontribs) 19:24, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I just added the information on the miniseries' DVD release and the date that it was released. I also changed the article to the present tense rather than the past tense since the miniseries never ceased to exist as a result of the miniseries now made available on DVD. Frschoonover (talk) 19:45, 5 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Starring - James Woods

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The article states The nine-and-a-half hour program starred Meryl Streep, James Woods and Michael Moriarty but James Woods is missing from the infobox on the right. Shouldn't he be added? Thanks 77.126.66.73 (talk) 07:39, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Other airings?

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Anyone have sources about the show? According to the documentary, Imaginary Witness, a groundswell triggered by this miniseries extended the statute of limitations on war crimes in West Germany. Also, I recall having seen the Weiss story, although I know I usually didn't watch miniseries on their first run when I was a tot. 76.21.107.221 (talk) 06:04, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

negative response?

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the lede mentions "it was criticized by some, including noted Holocaust survivor and author Elie Wiesel, who described it as 'untrue and offensive'". but there is no further info about such response in the article. just what was EW's beef with the show? Cramyourspam (talk) 17:14, 2 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There is link to Wiesel's article in the New York Times in which he makes that criticism. Personally, I disagree with him. I take the miniseries in the context of its time. In 1979, it had the effect of making the events known to a broader audience, or forcing people to face the events, as happened when it aired in West Germany. The miniseries is dated today, to be sure, but it's still pretty good, as historical dramas go. Wiesel has moral authority, but he's no film critic. He doesn't like the fact that Dorf is "present at all the salient events" (I believe I quote him correctly). He's a fictional character, for one thing, and in having him present at many of the those events allows the screenwriters to show us those events and tie them into the story. It is, after all, historical drama, not a documentary. Best regardsTheBaron0530 (talk) 19:40, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Dorff

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Per IMDB and other sources, the spelling is "Dorf". I'll see if I can track down how the "Dorff" spelling entered into the article, but it's just not supported by reliable sources. On a tangential note, I suspect that the name "Dorf" was chosen symbolically for it's literal meaning in German to reflect poverty of mind. Rklawton (talk) 01:48, 6 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hey. "Dorf" actually means "village" and "doof" means "stupid", so it is not as you suspected. On the other side "Dorf" is a known Jewish family name as well. Also "Dorff" exists too, but you were right about the misspelling. --84.151.81.239 (talk) 08:12, 22 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Plot summary - too long? IMHO: no

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The series is heavy on plot, plus it really is 8 hours of television. Not too long, IMHO. I'd remove the tag. --Satu Katja (talk) 08:25, 21 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Of course it is not too long. This is yet another example of a tag-happy editor (probably who doesn't add content) going around pasting tags where he can. This tag is particularly egregious because it cannot be removed (if you believe what the instructions say) until there is some unnecessary condensation. I may find the article on Australia to long and detailed for my tastes but I don't think that justifies me tagging it with my own prejudice. (BTW, that was an example. I don't actually think the article is too long.) AnthroMimus (talk) 15:48, 1 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Budget

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What was the budget, planned and used, for the production?!--105.4.5.180 (talk) 20:05, 25 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

holocaust — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.29.76.132 (talk) 06:12, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]


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