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UN Human Rights Council complaints[edit]

Included information about current UN Human Rights Council complaints to Norway, and a link to this source.

I have many sources for these points in Norwegian, but unsure what use that would be in an English wikipedia article. I can however include these sources by request.

Included a section for history of Human Rights Abuses in Norway, unfortunately only with Norwegian language sources.

Unfortunately most of my sources are in Norwegian, but can apply these sources.

Minor edits in the layout to include the additional information that should not affect the readability and content of the article.

I feel I must however warn against an effort to supress public information about human rights abuses in Norway. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Editor456991 (talkcontribs) 02:23, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Guardian of this article raised the question of what the emphasis of this article should be upon, current or historical human rights situations in Norway.

In that context I think the section on the land right of Sami people could need some updated information after the 2021 ruling in Norwegian Supreme Court over the illegal construction of wind turbines on Sami reindeer grazing land.

More information on the current plight of Romani people in Norway could also need more information, especially considering the 2015 criticism by the Council of Europe Commissioner for Human Rights. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Editor456991 (talkcontribs) 17:07, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Copying extensive unsourced material to Talk page so that it doesn't disappear and can be reintroduced if valid sources are cited.

- Popoki35 (talk) 03:48, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Problems[edit]

The recent contributions by Editor456991 (talk · contribs) (see here) have multiple issues:

Editor456991 (talk · contribs) have also, in this discussion about the norwegian version of his text, suggested that those opposing his/her text have a agenda of protecting Norway or the norwegian government against criticism. He/she also said that『siden dette også dreier seg om menneskerettigheter er det svært alvorlig for dine administrasjonsrettigheter ref. charteret til Wikipedia.』(as this is about human rights, this is very serious concerning your admin rights, ref Wikipedia charter).

BwOrland (talk) 07:11, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

- The sources are the UN criticism that is updated every four years, and that is clearly linked, I suggest you read it and their source material.
- The source is the again the UN, the international communities and the European Council Commissioner for Human Rights which is clearly linked, I suggest you read it and their source material.
- I fail to see the problem with the semantics here, it's relevant that the sovereign wealth fund is very large, and it's questionable if it really can be defined as a pension fund anymore considering the large amounts of money transferred from the wealth fund to the annual state budget, in the amount of several tens of billions dollars, or almost a quarter of the state budget.
- That would be correcting into an error, as it's not correct that all Finnish Speaking minorities in Norway are Kven-people. Kven-people are located in Finnmark and speak a specific dialect of Finnish, the worst "Norwegianisation policy" however happened to Finnish speaking minorities living in Southern Norway (e.g. Finnskogen), so Kven-People would not be a correct term to use.
- You know better than this having seen the long list of sources in the Norwegian version.
It's of course not okay to remove or delete parts of a well sourced article about human rights no matter the reason, in fact it is illegal to do so by law in every country that has signed the human rights declaration, defined within the declaration itself.
If there is a problem with the content then there needs to be a proper discussion about it in public. Deleting something because of propaganda, and here Norwegian are especially susceptible as they live within their own propaganda realms, because somebody don't want to think or feel it's accurate is not a valid reason - especially when it comes to human rights issues. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Editor456991 (talkcontribs) 15:24, 15 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Seriously, Editor456991. Do you really, really believe that it is "illegal by law" to edit someones contributions to Wikipedia!? Read again the text right below the editing window: "By publishing changes, you agree to the Terms of Use, and you irrevocably agree to release your contribution under the CC BY-SA 3.0 License and the GFDL." Bw --Orland (talk) 21:42, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
All rights and freedoms exist in law because the Human Rights exist. In the Human Rights it is specifically written that none of the rights guaranteed and given by the Human Rights can be used to subvert the Human Rights. So yes, it is not only illegal to remove information about the Human Rights and human rights abuses, it is in fact fundamental to all laws that it's illegal to supress information about Human Rights and human rights abuses. Consider that Wikipedia would in fact not even exist, as it does not in many countries, without the Human Rights - and we would not even be having this conversation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Editor456991 (talkcontribs) 03:33, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That's not an answer to my question. There is no exception from editing. Orland (talk) 11:28, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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