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Talk:Jesse (biblical figure)

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On 5 April 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from JessetoJesse (biblical figure). The result of the discussion was moved.

Is this person's appearance in the Bible the only evidence we have for their existence, or are there other accounts or archaeological evidence as well?--Robert Merkel 00:02 13 Jul 2003 (UTC)

There is no archeological evidence. I found his name alraedy wikified on King David's entry. You think it should be removed?
Perhaps enter it to David's entry as a sub-entry titled "ancestry"? - Nahum—Preceding undated comment added at 00:17, 13 July 2003 (UTC)[reply]

If his story is told "at length" in the Book of Ruth, a summary of that story and a bit of clarification of his historicity would make a very acceptable wikipedia entry IMO. --Robert Merkel 00:23 13 Jul 2003 (UTC)

I just had a flick through Ruth. He is mentioned only briefly in one passage. I say redirect the article to David and mention David'd ancestry there. --Robert Merkel 00:26 13 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Ok, Done. Nahum 00:52 13 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Disambig may be necessary. There was a sitcom called Jesse starring Christina Applegate. Mike H 05:11, Aug 25, 2004 (UTC)

• OkIZAK 05:34, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Ha, someone changed it...—Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.230.179.55 (talk) 06:24, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Do we have any citation regarding Jesse's supposed hottness? 147.253.163.29 05:46, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Yishai" actually means "God's gift." "Shai" is another word for gift in Hebrew (still used today), and the "Yi" prefix is another name for God.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.51.55.246 (talk) 20:51, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They could be a chance someone could be out there with a new stuff. I mean the game has not not been released yet.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.176.197.219 (talk) 22:18, 2 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

my names jesse—Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.186.106.220 (talk) 12:51, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

(moved to here for readability Rursus dixit. (^mbork³!) 13:25, 5 April 2010 (UTC))[reply]

I know this looks to be original research. I wouldn't be at all surprised to be reverted, but i hope, instead, someone will come up with a citation. I know the information to be accurate from years of conversations w/hispanics-latinos, and i think the info germaine to the subject. I hope someone will come 2 my rescue here. Ragityman (talk) 03:27, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about the blanking: totally unintentional. No vandalism was intended. Don't know anything about the bot that produced the gibberish in the next edit. Maybe vandalism, or maybe an automatic response triggered by my blanking. I will attempt to redo my previous edit, this time w/o blanking.

Ragityman (talk) 06:04, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I found a source for citation! It's old, but i wouldn't think outdated, as we're dealing w/antiquities. Will place it here and then attenpt to create a ref. Haven't done that b4, so if i mess it up, please feel free to fix it.

p. 11, Addresses on the Book of Joshua by H.A. Ironside, Litt. D., (c) 1950 Loizeaux Bros., Inc., N.Y.

Ragityman (talk) 07:17, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean by "Jesus = Jesse"? --Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 18:52, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, according to Semiticist Edward Lipinski in his book, Semitic Languages: Outline of a Comparative Grammar..."For example, David's patronymic *Yeššay (Greek Iεσσαι) probably preserves an old Afro-Asiatic noun attested in Amharic as wəšša, "dog", in East Cushitic as wišš-, "dog", in Tuareg as uššən, "jackal", in Egyptian as wnš, "wolf", "jackal". Of course, the name may also become meaningless to later generations and degenerate into a mere label or tag. This loss of lexical meaning affects especially names borrowed from one language into another. A name may also be reinterpreted and receive a new meaning; e.g. the name of Jehu's grandfather Nmšy, certainly related to Amorite Na-am-se-e-^dIM /Namšē-Hadda/, was vocalized Nimšī by the Masoretes who thought of Arabic nims, "ichneumon", while it was pronounced Nαμεσσι in the Hellenistic period, what shows a connection with Babylonian nammaššū, "beast"." [1]

I think this is one of those names that has been reinterpreted. Also Online Etymology Dictionary - etymonline.com [2] has- Jesse masc. proper name, biblical father of David, from Latin, from Greek Iessai, from Hebrew Yishay, of unknown origin. It appears that the etymology given in the Wikipedia article is a folk etymology. A.Tamar Chabadi (talk) 14:59, 31 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Evidently (from 1 Samuel 16) Jesse had more sons than these seven, and ... " What is the basis for this statement? Does 1Sam 16 v 10 suggest that there were seven sons in addition to all those named? If so, it might be likely that Jesse had more than one wife and that David grew up in a polygamous household (which might explain certain aspects of his own later life). Douglasson (talk) 10:43, 25 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) 🐶 EpicPupper ^{(he/him | talk)} 03:00, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Jesse → Jesse (biblical figure)
• Jesse (disambiguation) → Jesse

– As Biblical figures go, this one is lesser known and not particularly important—certainly not the first thing that comes to mind when the name "Jesse" is mentioned. I strongly doubt that there is a primary topic of this reasonably common name. BD2412 T 21:26, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: I would not object terrible to making Jesse (given name) the primary topic either, but I think it's a pretty close call. BD2412 T 21:28, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Support strongly per nom. This isn't a situation like Abraham etc. In this case, the biblical figure is NOT the primary topic — I'd say there's no primary topic overall. So, I'd say the safest bet would be to move the disambiguation page to the basename. Paintspot Infez (talk) 23:55, 5 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 01:37, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Support per nom and Paintspot. I can also see the case for moving Jesse (given name) to the primary title, but I think Jesse (disambiguation) is a marginally better choice. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 19:34, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Support per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. The biblical figure article does get just barely more than 50% of pageviews. Not quite enough for me to say more than all the others combined, though, given the basename bump. Long-term significance would probably bolster the primarytopic argument here, but overall a dab page is best. Definitely do not make the given name article primary. Dohn joe (talk) 20:44, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. There does not appear to be a primary topic. Egsan Bacon (talk) 00:55, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Support per nomination, Paintspot Infez, Ortizesp, ModernDayTrilobite, Dohn joe and Egsan Bacon. There are 16 entries upon the Jesse (disambiguation) page, with no indication that the Biblical figure's historical / biblical renown, such as it is, overwhelms the combined notability of the remaining 15 entries. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 01:29, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Support Pageviews indicate this lesser-known Biblical figure is not the clear primary topic with the television series getting decent page views as well. Support Jesse as a disambiguation page. AusLondonder (talk) 15:00, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.