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This article was nominated for deletion on 17 December 2019. The result of the discussion was keep.

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On 22 January 2023, it was proposed that this article be movedtoJulio Rodríguez. The result of the discussion was not moved.

On 27 August 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Julio Rodríguez (baseball)toJulio Rodríguez. The result of the discussion was moved.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) EggRoll97 ^(talk) 03:45, 8 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Julio Rodríguez (baseball) → Julio Rodríguez
• Julio Rodríguez → Julio Rodríguez (disambiguation)

– Okay, I've waited a few months since the last nomination for movement, and since then the baseball player's notability has only increased. Over the past 3 months this page has averaged 2,069 views per day compared to 765 since the last nomination. This is the only page that is getting thousands of views per day compared to the other eight Julio Rodriguez pages listed on the disambiguation page. His views account for 99.55% of total views on pages with 'Julio Rodriguez' in the title. Also Google search results are almost exclusively about the baseball player and since he was named an All-Star this season further solidifies his notability. Therefore the baseball player should be the WP:PRIMARY TOPIC. Ccai2053 (talk) 06:14, 27 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Support per nom (see pageviews). An overwhelming primary topic. Station1 (talk) 02:27, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. In addition to the above, also consider WikiNav (no destination other than Julio Rodríguez (baseball), within the limitations of the clickstream dataset). Adumbrativus (talk) 09:32, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Support, since I supported in the previous RM, and as shown, the stats clearly display the baseball player is the primary topic. The player is an All-Star and won Rookie of the Year. The arguments against were unconvincing, "too common a name, too many articles", which, in addition to not being an argument, is not saying much when 7 of the articles are barely notable footballers. --Quiz shows 19:50, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose. Of course a 22-year-old baseball player who's still playing is going to get most hits. But there's no way anyone can prove that his long-term significance beats all the others combined. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:06, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  There's no way anyone can ever prove anyone's long-term significance compared to anyone else's. It's always a subjective judgment. Station1 (talk) 15:25, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Indeed. But at 22 it's unlikely that long-term significance can ever even be seriously claimed. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:56, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  I disagree. As an All-Star and Rookie of the Year, he's already in the record books for the long term. But that aside, if none of the others have more long-term significance, and this person has the overwhelming pageviews, this person is the primary topic at this time. Station1 (talk) 16:30, 29 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Utterly meaningless to those of us outside the small number of countries in which baseball is played. A handful of baseball players clearly do have very well-established long-term significance even outside those countries, but he is not one of them. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:21, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  No doubt. But we are a global encyclopedia, without borders. On a global basis, there's no question that among those wanting to read about a person named Julio Rodriguez, the vast majority want and expect to read about this one. If you type just "Julio" in WP's search engine, he's one of the ten results that pop up. Station1 (talk) 20:51, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Strong oppose, among the many others also a general José Julio Rodríguez Fernández. MrKeefeJohn (talk) 08:43, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  He is not called Julio Rodriguez in most sources. And he gets fewer than 0.1% of the ballplayer's views. Station1 (talk) 20:51, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Support per nom, he is clearly primary topic. ~Bluecrystal004 ^{(talk · contribs)} 02:06, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.