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K2, also known as /Qogir, Ketu/Kechu, and Mount Godwin-Austen.In Local Balti Language K2 is called Chhogori (Urdu:چھوغوری)[1] (Balti/Tibetan Script: ཆོ་གོ་རི།). The name that the people of Baltistan gave K-2 long before the first western explorer and map-maker arrived in this region was Chhogho Ri — Great Mountain. Towering far above every other snow-laden peak, the mountain was given as apt a name as possible. Here it was, visible from afar from so many vantage points frequented by shepherds and hunters, flying its plume of spindrift in the 150 knot winds that whipped its virgin crest. Blindingly white in the midday sun, it would turn the colour of burnished gold as the hunter on a distant ridge gathered up his bow and quiver and humped the ibex he had bagged just as the sun readied to dip below the western crags. Not wrongly did they, who live beneath it, call it Chhogho Ri.[2] Salman Rasheed writes in its book Apricot Road to China. "British surveyors were to one day demystify its Balti name into unromantic, uninspiring K-2. With one flourish of a surveyor’s pen, the majestic Chhogho Ri became known by that utterly unbecoming combination of a single letter of the alphabet and a number. It was ever more chastening that mapmakers of the Raj degraded the Great Mountain to a station lower than a much inferior peak."[3]
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As Someone requested here. He is right that in local Balti Language K2 is called Chhoghori which is pronounced as چھوغوری in Urdu. I am Balti speaker from Baltistan. Repalce شاہگوری as چھوغوری . چھوغوری is correct spelling in Urdu. Thanks Reference http://www.skardu.pk/k2-choghori/ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:K2&action=edit§ion=new http://odysseuslahori.blogspot.com/2014/03/MuztaghPassExpedition.html
The article is wrong to say that Montgomerie 'surveyed' K2. He sketched it and Masherbrum from a telescope sighting at a distance of approx. 220km. The mountain was properly surveyed and its height precisely determined by Henry Haversham Godwin-Austen (1834-1923) in 1860. He was the first to explore many of the glaciers in this area. (His explorations stretched from the Hispar Glacier to the Aksai Chin.) His very detailed survey of K2 was made from a point approx. 1000m above Urdukas. The detail can be found in my biography of Godwin-Austen (the first and only biography authorized by the family), 'The K2 Man (and His Molluscs):the Extraordinary Life of Haversham Godwin-Austen'. Catherine Moorehead~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.21.208.3 (talk) 16:35, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
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Numbers of summit ascents ON k2= 306 Numbers of death on k2= 81 As of 2013 Maudedufortl (talk) 02:10, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
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In local Balti Language K2 is called Chhoghori which is pronounced as چھوغوری in Urdu. But it is misspelled here.
there's some nicknames not listed like Killer Mountain and The Mountain with No Name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.242.81.170 (talk) 13:42, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Disappointing to see that the correct early history of K2 has not yet been applied to the main article. The following corrections are needed: 1) There is no evidence whatsoever that the native name Chhogori was applied before Godwin-Austen's survey in 1861. 2) Montgomerie noted the peak in 1856, from the Deosai Plateau, but did not survey it. 3) K2's position was geographically first defined, and its height first calculated by Haversham Godwin-Austen in August 1861. 4) Although his name in full was Henry Haversham Godwin-Austen, he was always called Haversham by family, friends and colleagues.
You will find detailed evidence for all of the above in my biography of Godwin-Austen, 'The K2 Man', In Pinn, Glasgow, 2013.
Please set the record straight, once and for all!
Catherine Moorehead ~ ~ ~ ~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.21.230.229 (talk) 21:43, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
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K2 is located in POK (Pakistan Occupied Kashmir ) region. Webassassin (talk) 08:20, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
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In the article, the Gilgit-Baltistan, so Mount K2 also, is mentioned as territory of Pakistan. However, it is not so. It is a disputed territory and illegally occupied by Pakistan. By all records and treaty, It belongs to India. Also, The Mount K2 is the highest peak of India, not Pakistan because it does not come under the territory of Pakistan. So, it would be more appropriate to make following changes.
1)Replace 'Gilgit-Baltistan, Pakistan' to Gilgit-Baltistan, India.
2)Replace "...highest point in Pakistan" to "...highest point in India".
Please make these appropriate changes in the whole article.
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I want that talk to be reopened. It was not adequately represented from both the sides and in the 'talk' mentioned above, there was no consensus reached.
If you read newspaper, The Ministry of External Affairs, India recently said Gilgit-Baltistan is an integral part of India.
Pakistan has also said recently that the issue is unresolved.
So, how can you mention this, straightly that the region belongs to a particular country?
This is wrong and totally wrong. There should be discussion and the page should be suspended till the consensus is reached in that talk.
Iranian and foreign climbers summit only had one seat in 1998 without climbing equipment with empty hands upward to the dangerous peaks were heroic. The two men were old Arash Abbasi and Muhammad Ali Marzban of the expedition. It should be noted that the group's next goal was to climb Mount Meru in India, which also had a successful climb. Doubles Group decrepit mountain climbing among 58 peaks over 6,000 meters in height which have climbed 39 peaks that was unique in history. During the trip Hychhayk old double expedition in the Pacific Ocean passed by a violent storm at age 38, said farewell
There is no any conseus what is mentioned.AZAD KASHMIR is self proclaimed just like what ISIS has claimed. K2 is integral part of india. Ypsingh92 (talk) 07:54, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
Since recent ascent my Simone Moro's team of Nanga Parbat in Winter, it's important to mention - perhaps in the introduction - that K2 is the last of the 8000m peaks to remain unclimbed in winter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.240.200.15 (talk) 22:56, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
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59.91.243.132 (talk) 06:54, 15 April 2016 (UTC) India-China border not pakistan-China border
I do not understand why Anchan Balti undid all of my references changes. He has reverted w/o any comments. His changes lost much of the expansions I made and converted template uses back to non-template format. Makes little sense to me. RedWolf (talk) 23:10, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
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Casually, the article mentions that a Polish team summitted 28 people in 2012, at the same time. There's a source, and perhaps it's true - although I can't find all that much coverage of it on the internet. It seems an unusually large number, the kind of thing that would have books written about it. Was it just a very fortunate year? -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 20:25, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
I have to write this for homework and I don't know how many people have died on k2 please help Unknown.lol (talk) 11:47, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
hello — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ali1236583664 (talk • contribs) 20:02, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
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It is more difficult and hazardous to reach the peak of K2 from the Chinese side; thus, it is usually climbed from the Kashmiri side.
This made more sense when it read "it is climbed from the Pakistani side". Like China, Kashmir does not exist as an independent entity on the world map. Usama Muneeb (talk) 23:57, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
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location = India (Jammu and Kashmir), China 49.248.122.162 (talk) 09:38, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
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map = Pakistan#Gilgit Baltistan#China Xinjiang#Asia 49.248.122.162 (talk) 09:43, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
K2 was first surveyed in August 1861 by Haversham Godwin-Austen, from a spur of Masherbrum above Urdukas, about 1000m above the Baltoro Glacier. It was this survey which established the mountain's height and location.
Godwin-Austen's first names are 'Henry Haversham', but is known in the family as 'Haversham'.
Included in the bibliography should be my biography of Godwin-Austen, 'The K2 Man (and his Molluscs)', by Catherine Moorehead, In Pinn, Glasgow, 2013. It describes in detail the work of Godwin-Austen and the early Indian Survey work on K2. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.130.12.53 (talk) 03:24, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
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There is a obvious typo in Climbing history > Winter expeditions section.
It is: "However, Denis Urubku reported" It should be: "However, Denis Urubko reported" Welpa (talk) 15:19, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
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k2 is in India and not in Pakistan 2405:204:1207:FC6B:155D:56D:A0B9:E6AB (talk) 07:27, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
There is no mention of first climbers who summited without supplemental oxygen which is a huge accomplishment. As far as I can tell, it was first done in 1978 by either Louis Reichardt or John Roskelley, both Americans. There apparently some debate over it. [1] In 1979 it was done by Reinhold Messner and Michael Dacher. The first woman to climb K2 without oxygen tanks was Wanda Rutkiewicz, Polish, in 1986. I don't have access to original sources for citations, most of it comes from other wikipedia articles.
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K2 is not present in Pakistan, it is present in Pakistan occupied Kashmir, which means it is a part of India,but currently under control of Pakistan. Please refer to UN resolution for Pakistan occupied Kashmir for reference. Land belongs to India, hence its not right to call its presence in Pakistan. 2402:3A80:108E:4886:C8EE:E80C:55AA:2E3F (talk) 18:55, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
Here is official map of India by UN. Please try finding K2 in it. https://www.un.org/Depts/Cartographic/map/profile/india.pdf
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Hello ! Please change
"Although the summit of Everest is at a higher altitude, K2 is a more difficult and dangerous climb, due in part to its more inclement weather and comparatively greater height from base to peak." (is incorrect as K2 base camp is around 3500 meters below the summit, and Everest South and North base camps are respectively 3500 and 3700 meters below.)
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"Although the summit of Everest is at a higher altitude, K2 is a more difficult and dangerous climb, due in part to its more inclement weather" Machinechance (talk) 14:36, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
Although the summit of Everest is at a higher altitude, K2 is a more difficult and dangerous climb, due in part to its more inclement weatherYour reason is ...incorrect as K2 base camp is around 3500 meters below the summit, and Everest South and North base camps are respectively 3500 and 3700 meters below. Can you explain how the sources you provided support your request. Please quote from the sources. {{replyto}} Can I Log In's (talk) page 18:30, 13 April 2020 (UTC)and comparatively greater height from base to peak.
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K2 peak mountain range shares border between India and Pakistan. Siachen Glacier mountain ranges shares india and china. There is a land dispute between India and Pakistan. As per British land allocation. Record states that K2 belongs to kashmirian king's présidencial zamin(land). Due to heavy ice glaciers. The place wasn't suitable for vegetation. So, the king neglected the region for plantations. Place was ideal for only in peak summer. So, The king surrendered land due to unstable governance and joined with Indian Union. So, the land belongs to India. (Balisitan) and other names kept later occupied by Pakistan. Keyansnow (talk) 19:12, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
Materials also available. Keyansnow (talk) 19:14, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
As history says gilgit-balistan was given to the Government of India by King hari singh of Kashmir at the time of independence of India. K2 is situated in gilgit-balistan region of kashmir. So its clearly belong to the India Nisharth00 (talk) 08:04, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
A similar problem is the reference to it being on the China border. The north of the mountain is actually on the disputed Trans-Karakoram Tract. Onceinawhile (talk) 23:37, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
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K2/gilgit-baltistan is illegally occupied by pakistan but is not in pakistan and only a very biased pakistani would spread this misinformation. It is in pakistan-occupied jammu, kashmir, gilgit and baltistan. At the very least it should be put as pakistan-administered kashmir as labelled globally. 2A00:23C4:9482:FB00:898A:2B51:E9C1:6EDC (talk) 12:57, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
Regarding Winter 2021 ascent: all 10 climbers that summited where Nepalese, and that is mentioned in the sources. Nine of the 10 were Sherpa people. But the entire team was international in nature: apparently the full expedition was a collection of 40 to 60 climbers from many nations. None of the non-Nepalese climbers made it to the top (yet ... apparently many are still there and still trying). So, I think the wording should say that the expedition/team was "international" (or omit a nationality entirely); but the summit group was Nepalese. Make sense? Noleander (talk) 16:22, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
True, In fact all climbers at BC were 4 groups with 3 permits: 1: Nirmal Purja : Nims plus six Nepalis/Sherpas in support, one client looking to experience lower K2 : on permit international SST K-2 Winter Expedition. 2: Mingma Gyalje Sherpa: three people: Lela's Nepalese K-2 Winter expedition[1] 3: Chhang Dawa Sherpa: 49 person commercial team with 22 clients and 27 Sherpas in support: International SST K-2 Winter Expedition[2] 4: John Snorri Sigurjonsson with Muhammad Ali Sadpara and son: Iceland K-2 Winter expedition [3]
Summit group consisted of 3 groups: 1: Nims's Team: Nirmal Purja, Gelje Sherpa, Mingma David Sherpa, Mingma Tenzi Sherpa, Dawa Temba Sherpa, Pem Chhiri Sherpa. 2: Mingma G’s team: Mingma Gyalje Sherpa, Kilu Pemba Sherpa, Dawa Tenjing Sherpa. 3: Dawa's team(SST): Sona Sherpa
But also true, make sense? Frans Ver (talk) 11:07, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
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Gilgit and K2 are definitely in Pakistan and not in India. Do you need Indian visa or Pakistani visa to visit them? It doesn't matter what India claims. Pakistan also claims that the whole India from Amritsar to Kochi and Ahmadabad to Kolkata belongs to Pakistan. Does it mean that Pakistanis should also start vandalizing Wikipedia pages and Wikipedia talk pages with claims like "New Delhi is illegally occupied by India and belongs to Pakistan"? The fact remains fact i-e K2 is in Pakistan and belongs to Pakistan. If someone has any issue, force the United Nations and rest of the world admit that K2 is in India. ArsalanJ (talk) 07:27, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
Gilgit is not in pakistan it is in india, currently illegitimately occupied by pakistan so please don't spread such wrong info. Pankajpk47 (talk) 07:27, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
Gilgit is not in pakistan it is in india, currently illegitimately occupied by pakistan so please don't spread such wrong info. Pankajpk47 (talk) No.1bonhomie (talk) 10:11, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
tell them about this
Srijan Suryansh 12:47, 13 February 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srijansuryansh (talk • contribs)
Yes this is true information. Nisharth00 (talk) 08:04, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
I am Agree with @Pankajpk47. Actually Gilgit is not a part of Pakistan. Gilgit is part of India but occupied by Pakistan. The K2 mountain is in POK (Pakistan Occupied Kashmir). So @Wikipedia need to correct the information about K2 and Gilgit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.236.26.14 (talk) 07:45, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
Small thing that seems obvious to me, but I got reverted so here goes. The point of listing Everest’s height in the lead is as a comparison to K2. As such, they should be comparable numbers with roughly the same level of precision. It is just needless clutter to specify the height to the cm level when the K2 figure does not (I assume it’s height has never been measured to that specificity?) I believe the Everest height should be rounded to the nearest metre in the lead. Comments? Somatochlora (talk) 10:40, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
(Work in progress) This should be an addition to the main article, under Climbing history; Winter expeditions; 2021.
On the evening of February the 4th, 2021, Ali Sadpara, Wikipedia Ísland - John Snorri Sigurjónsson, Wikipedia Español - Juan Pablo Mohr and Sajid Sapara set off from Bottleneck. They were expecting to reach Summit in about 15 to 16 hours. On Friday morning (February 5th) at approx. 5am, local time, the fourth member, Sajid Sapara had troubles with his oxygen supply and returned to Bottleneck. As of the last known posted news update via Icelandic newspaper Vísir, none of the climbers have been heard from in 72 hours.(Vísir; Manually translated English title: Hope has dwindled) (published February 7th, at 10:04pm GMT-0)
Sources - Last posted article - Vísir 'Vonin hefur dvínað'. (I am Icelandic and can confirm the contents of the article if needed) [1] Last posted article - Vísir 'Vonin hefur dvínað', translated using Google translate. [2]
Out of respect for the family, friends and others,
we should refrain from making an official update to the article
until any official confirmationn is posted.
Lafi90 (talk) 03:19, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
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K2 is in India, it is in Ladakh region of India
K2 is in India, it is in Ladakh region of India 2409:4065:D8A:BDA5:A24E:BB3D:A1C1:3749 (talk) 10:45, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
K2 is in India, it is in Ladakh region of India
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Fake information Mr.per fect dil (talk) 11:30, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
it is in Pakistan occupied region Mr.per fect dil (talk) 11:30, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
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Edit - Winter Expedition 2021 paragraph, in the final sentence: please add Juan Pablo Mohr as another climber who lost their life during the Winter expedition. 209.93.41.166 (talk) 22:13, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
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Please remove this
It lies in the Karakoram range, in part in the Gilgit-Baltistan region of Pakistan-administered Kashmir and in part in a China-administered territory
and add this
It lies in the Karakoram range, divided between the Gilgit-Baltistan region of Pakistan-administered Kashmir and a China-administered territory
It's simply replacing "in part in...in part in" with "divided between", without affecting the delicate description of who controls what. Thank you. 122.150.71.249 (talk) 04:51, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
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Please use the name "Mingma Gyabu Sherpa" instead of "Mingma Gyalje Sherpa" for crediting the winter ascent, as that's the version of the name that has a wikipedia page.
After the demolition of article 370, which has considered Jammu and Kashmir as a part of the Indian territory, there is no such thing called as PoK or china administered region, please make ur facts clear before writing any thing on such a huge social platform 103.51.75.143 (talk) 03:01, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
United Nations hasn't recognized PoK or Aksai Chin as part of Pakistan and China respectively
so it's better to edit K2 as a part of Ladakh
After Revocation article 370 boundaries changed and K2 has gone to union Territory of Ladakh
Het666 (talk) 04:07, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
UN has recognised Kashmir as a disputed territory. kindly avoid making these false claims. Xtreme o7 (talk) 20:34, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
Add Wanda Rutkiewicz 192.166.202.46 (talk) 00:17, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
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2022 Belarusian-Canadian mountaineer Liliya Ianovskaia (62) became the oldest woman to summit K2 on July 22, 2022 (https://www.8kexpeditions.com/new-and-event/all-8k-members-successfully-scaled-the-world-2nd-highest-mountain-k2-in-pakistan), doing so only 2 months after she summitted Everest together with her daughter Dasha (https://gripped.com/profiles/canadian-mother-daughter-team-summits-everest/). Laura Desmond (talk) 12:11, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
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(Please add the following to section on recent climbing history 2022 Belarusian-Canadian mountaineer Liliya Ianovskaia (62) became the oldest woman to summit K2 on July 22 [1], doing so only 2 months after she summitted Everest together with her daughter Dasha as one of only three mother-daughter teams to do so [2]. Laura Desmond (talk) 01:47, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
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In 2022, Nelly Attar became the first Arab woman to reach the summit of K2 - she is from Lebanon and has a MRes in Psychology. 173.177.254.90 (talk) 12:53, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
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K2 is in India as per reference of Indian map 202.43.122.15 (talk) 06:01, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
The complete Jammu and Kashmir belongs India only. So K2 and Aksai chin are integral parts of India. 103.88.238.66 (talk) 16:48, 17 June 2023 (UTC) yes above statement is correct , i am ankit and i am telling you that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.151.94.42 (talk) 18:23, 11 September 2023 (UTC)