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Originally settled by miners and foresters, the district now includes an important fruit growing section (Creston Valley) and numerous commercial centers, including Trail, Nelson, Cranbrook, Kimberley, Fernie, Castlegar, and Creston.

Well, the area was originally settled by the Ktunaxa and Sinixt, for starters, but the "foresters" got there right around the same timeas the orchardists (1880s-1990s), partly because the opening of the CPR, and its rival lines in nearby parts of WA, ID and MT (1880s), and also because the great Slocan silver-galena rush and the accompanying boom in the Boundary Country (which sometimes, as lately with the Kettle-Granby Rivers flooding, is considered to be the Kootenays; or at least Grand Forks and Christina Lake are, though Rock Creek and Greenwood generally aren't). Trail is an industrial centre as well as a commercial centre; I'll come back to this later but it's obvious this whole article needs to be brought to wiki standard; and clarified. Sounds to me like a contributing author here is from Creston, by the boosterish sound of the text above.Skookum1 16:17, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Kootenays have no official boundaries and some variation exists in terms of what areas are or are not a part.

Uh, no. The whole area got named Kootenays because of the creation of the Kootenay Land District during the establishment of the Colony of British Columbia, which applied the name of the river to the whole BC portion of the Columbia basin (other than the Okanagan-Similkameen). The variations exist because of popular language; but a legal definition actually does exist (Land District definitions are less useful/relevant for other BC regions; the Cariboo spans both the Lillooet and Cariboo Land Districts; the Cariboo Land District included the Omineca, Peace, Liard and Robson Valley etc) and it's also how the name came to be used for the region. Skookum1 16:27, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not a Kootenay-oid, but this struck me as odd:

The usual East-West separator is the northward leg of the Kootenay River (mostly Kootenay Lake) with the Duncan River as a northern extension. This places Creston and points east in the East Kootenay (or East Kootenays) and Kaslo and points west in the West Kootenay (or West Kootenays)

Really? I've never thought of Creston as being in the East Kootenay, which for me always began at least at Yahk, i.e. was exclusive to the Rocky Mountain Trench and Elk Valley-Crowsnest-Rockies. Anything west of the Purcells was, in my day, considered West Kootenay; at least this was the case as told to me by people from Salmo, Nelson, Trail, Creston etc that I knew back in the '70s. And as regards the Boundary Country, it's only been in recent decades that I've heard that fudged as being in the West Kootenay and/or the Okanagan. I think in the old-old days the delimitation of the Kootenays/the Kootenay vs anywhere else was real simple - the Kootenay Land District vs the Okanagan and Boundary divisions of the Yale Land District (which were identical with the early electoral districts BTW).Skookum1 07:14, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The linked article in the title is to an electoral district; it should be a redirect to here like East Kootenay is, and/or fleshed out as a subregion article; the East and West Kootenay should eventually be separate articles; the name/remove on West Kootenay is partly common sense, partly paving the way for later....Skookum1 (talk) 15:40, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:East Kootenay and Category:West Kootenay seem to need to exist; and since Boundary and Slocan are here, as categories, parallel to those would be making Category:Arrow Lakes and potentially Category:Elk Valley and Category:Kootenay Lake and so on subcats of their respective areas; Category:Columbia Country should already, I suppose, be macro'x into the Kootenay category, in teh same peripheral was as the Boundary area; at least the Columbia Country is part of the original (and current?) Kootenay Land District - the Boundary (Country) is/was in the Yale Land District.Skookum1 (talk) 21:33, 8 February 2009 (UTC) (old entry now sigged)[reply]

Re (/ˈkuːtni/ KOOT-nee) - shouldn't the IPA have an "ih" between the /t/ and /n/? Just a li'l one. I know it is pronounced also without it, but there's a definite "rhythm"....it's not like "jitney" for instance....Skookum1 (talk) 21:33, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And btw re Rossland, I'd changed that from "Rozzland" to "Rossland", pron. wise.....I imagine it might be pronounced both ways, mabey Rosslandites actually use the "zz", given the American background to the town's history...any thoughts (asking The Tom, although I gather you're in the East Kootenay - ??). Maybe User:Kootenayvolcano would be good to ask (and the thought of a Kootenay workgroup sub-d to the BC WikiProject has occurred to me more than once, given the huge number of articles still needed in these parts...)Skookum1 (talk) 21:35, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In my exp, Rossland more common a pronon. that Rozzland. Would love to be in that workgroup!Kootenayvolcano (talk) 18:02, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]