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I will leave this perfunctory comment here regarding this version of the article which carries additional, correct information for other editors to consider. Apparently I have been thwarted in my assistance of Wikipedia's aims by an odd administrative problem; therefore, I hope at some point another editor will do what is necessary.— ignis scripta 21:32, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
One last mention for other readers (since miscalculations seem intent on lingering on my skin not unlike a case of verruca) so that they may not be mislead by misapprehension: Michael Denton is a part of the intelligent design movement; however, his position is based not on theology (i.e., the "religiously based intelligent design movement") but on his theories regarding the structure of nature, a matter which he discusses at extended length in his books to discredit the Darwinian formulation of intrinsically chaotic, random, and cumulative events as the bases of evolutionary processes. So much for factual erroneousness—readers of reasonable understanding will inevitably conclude that nowhere is a written, "implausible and unsourced" error "among others" to be found.— ignis scripta 14:14, 22 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Given the statements of his second book "Nature's Destiny" he isn't a supporter of intelligent design. Specifically quotes like " Contrary to the creationist position, the whole argument presented here is critically dependent on the presumption of the unbroken continuity of the organic world--that is, on the reality of organic evolution and on the presumption that all living organisms on earth are natural forms in the profoundest sense of the word, no less natural than salt crystals, atoms, waterfalls, or galaxies." prove this point. I will give some reviews of his second book. http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/mark_vuletic/natures_destiny.html http://home.wxs.nl/~gkorthof/kortho29.htm Headrattle (talk) 06:51, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not very familiar with the subject matter, so take this with two grains of salt, but the article claims he "has been a strong proponent of intelligent design" yet the discussion here on the talk page does not reflect that. There seems to be some unanswered questions regarding how "deep" his ID support goes. Also, the claim that his book "was instrumental in starting the intelligent design movement" is not well referenced and a claim like that, I think, should have a significant amount of support. And what is the relationship between the title of his book and the Disco's anti-science mantra "evolution is a theory in crisis?" Finally...How do we know he asked that his name be removed from the DI web site? I'm just curious, I'd like to read more about it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Angry Christian (talk • contribs) 20:44, 25 February 2008 (UTC) Oops! Angry Christian (talk) 21:00, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Denton's PhD is widely reported, especially in Creationist circles, as being in "developmental biology" (an error that can be traced back to Dembski's mendacious statement in Uncommon Dissent: "As a post graduate he studied developmental biology at Kings College, London University where he gained a PhD in 1974.") I have therefore given full details in the article. As far as I can tell, not only did he received his PhD from the Department of Biochemistry, whe thesis topic, which is on "developing adult mamalian[sic] erythroid cells" is unrelated to developmental biology, which is "the study of the process by which organisms grow and develop", not how cells develop in adults. HrafnTalkStalk 15:49, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The article reads like it hasn't been touched in a decade. Denton's papers in the last five years show that his thinking has moved beyond Nature's Destiny, and way, way beyond A Theory in Crisis. Clearly the present article badly needs an update. JKeck (talk) 00:46, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The article reads: "the institute continues to cite Evolution: A Theory in Crisis work in support of its campaign" Actually the linked article (Bibliography of Supplementary Resources For Science Instruction) no longer cites Denton's Evolution: A Theory in Crisis though one quotation does mention his later book, Nature's Destiny. I'm going to update to better reflect reality.JKeck (talk) 17:38, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The statement "Denton's later book Nature's Destiny contradicts many of the points of A Theory in Crisis" is sourced to this, which only states:
Interestingly, it appears that Denton has finally rectified his misunderstanding about nested hierarchies and common descent, since in his latest book he unconditionally assumes the validity of the nested hierarchy, common descent, and the "tree of life" (Denton 1998, pp. 265-298). For example, in the chapter entitled The Tree of Life from Nature's Destiny, Denton discusses the phylogeny of several closely related species (the primates) and directly contradicts his previous misstatements presented by Camp above:
"In the case of primate DNA, for example, all the sequences in the hemoglobin gene cluster in man, chimp, gorilla, gibbon, etc., can be interconverted via single base change steps to form a perfect evolutionary tree relating the higher primates together in a system that looks as natural as could be imagined. There is not the slightest indication of any discontinuity." (Denton 1998, p. 277)
This was written by the same man who scribed:
"Each class at a molecular level is unique, isolated and unlinked by intermediates. Thus, molecules, like fossils, have failed to provide the elusive intermediates so long sought by evolutionary theory." (Denton 1986, p. 290)
This is fairly thin pickings for "many points". My suspicion (based on what I've heard said about ND) is that the statement is correct -- but it needs more solid sourcing to survive long term. HrafnTalkStalk 05:18, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This article seems completely lacking in any information about what Denton's actual views are other than he is seen as being linked to the Intelligent Design movement. Well, can anyone add some actual DETAIL as to what his views are and why he thinks there is evidence of some divine intervention? ThePeg (talk) 21:34, 7 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Reference 8 seems to have disappeared. I searched the web and couldn't find another source for his "My Biological World View." The reference should either be removed or replaced. Unfortunately I can't do that right now but I wanted to at least bring it up. CrimsonZ (talk) 10:39, 28 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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I had to laugh about that phrasing because this is basically a tautology for any book, that is actually being read by people... Yeah, there will be critical reviews. Maybe write something like "The philosophy of science professor Marc I. Vultic (among others) wrote a critical review paper."... 87.165.61.61 (talk) 08:08, 16 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]