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Talk:Mictlān

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Heaven?

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I'm not sure that Mictlan can really be characterised with the concept of 'heaven', as the recently added {heaven} template would seem to imply. For a start, it is envisioned as an Underworld layer, and (in a number of pre-columbian Nahuatl-speaking peoples' traditions) one of 13 such layers (counting the Earthly layer). True enough, it was regarded as the ultimate destination in the afterlife for the majority of folks- but in most Mesoamerican traditions the manner in which one lived one's life did not determine what happened after death (ie no moral or otherwise goodly - or bad - behaviour influenced one's fate).

Just what that template is supposed to identify or mean by 'heaven' is unclear to me, & it also has links to concepts of Afterlife and Underworld as well, to confuse matters.

Would be happen to listen to the reasoning behind this template and Mictlan's inclusion on it, but as things stand I think it should be removed (for this article).--cjllw | TALK 02:41, 29 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Bwithh for removing that template, whatever the purpose of that template I don't see that it could be applied to pre-Columbian Mesoamerican beliefs.--cjllw | TALK 23:41, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"This article is about the Aztec underworld. For the rapper, see Doomtree."

The article contains no information on why someone would confuse Mictlan with Doomtree — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.79.230.242 (talk) 04:13, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A quick check of the Doomtree page shows that one of the band member's stage name is Mike Mictlan, who in fact has his own page, so I'll replace the Doomtree link with that. Also, I'm going to add a note that Mictlan may refer to Mitla, a Zapotec site that derives its name from Mictlan. RJW37 (talk) 13:18, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In the story of Quetzalcoatl's visit to Mictlan, it says that Quetzalcoatl was shown 'the bones'. What bones are these? Why are they there? Why do they matter?

66.98.98.1 (talk)

Another page on wikipedia states: "However, a series of indigenous maps dating from the time of the Spanish conquest, found in nearby Tihuatlan and now known as the Lienzos de Tuxpan, suggest that the city might then have been called “Mictlan” or “place of the dead”, a common denomination for ancient sites whose original names have been lost."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Taj%C3%ADn#Name

I'm not sure if there's something there to work into this article, but it's kind of neat.

86.0.28.58 (talk) 15:14, 19 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]