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There are so many sources that are on-line. Which one is correct?
Where was he born? zacztecaz Wasn't he from a the beautiful and amazingly fruitful land of Spain? For lieth to me not good sir.
"pure" and "criollo" (creole) seems like a contradiction.
In Colonial Spanish America, Crillo, creole, means a person of only European (specifically Spanish ) descent born in the Americas. A Peninsular was someone born in IBERIA but living in the Americas. In the social hierarchy, Peninsulares are usually seen as slightly "superior" to crillos, but by no means were there restrictions the Crillos' ascension.
What is that (above)? Rbraunwa 18:29, 8 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
What Bachelor Degree did he get? Masters208.68.153.242 15:57, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[[]]ELEKTRA KOJAK[[]][reply]
Changed racism to chauvinism in the uprising section since it states that the preference was for Iberian spaniards versus Mexicans of pure spanish blood. It can't be racism between groups of the same race. Lycurgus 01:46, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Uploaded new photo that I took myself of the same mural. Vrac 22:45, 7 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I suggest getting this article locked. It has recently been vandalized a lot Juthani1 tcs 22:55, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I did a massive rewrite on this artile that was reverted. My work was definitely not vandalism.Thelmadatter (talk) 15:04, 9 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The first section is awefully long and needs to be broken up World tcs 02:55, 10 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
After looking through the article, there are refs however IPS are constantly changing info. I don't know if this informaton is reliable. I also have found a few of the dates to be incorrect. The may be more World (talk • contributions) 22:14, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Its a personal opinion — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.234.70.57 (talk) 22:31, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Reference No. 9 is a dead link. PrairieCat (talk) 08:23, 30 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The previous intro was looonnng and made the subsequent article almost redundant. I edited it to show what he was actually famous for, as a good intro should be. As far as what I replaced it with, feel free to edit that if you think it is inaccurate. --Phil5329 (talk) 17:12, 15 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
This page is being modified by unreliable sources.-— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.251.115.64 (talk) 14:19, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
All 19th century paintings of Hidalgo, like the ones you see in this article, are fake. All were based on an original portrait of a man of Austrian origin who posed as Hidalgo because nobody had painted a portrait of the real Hidalgo by the time he was elevated to the status of father of the independence, and the man was long dead and the new nation needed a noble face to honor (just as the Americans have their portraits of George Washington).
Finding a reliable source, even in Spanish, for the above statement will be easy. All Hidalgo portraits should thus be removed from the article.
—201.141.118.154 (talk) 01:24, 21 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
i've seen priest ordination documents for criollos since the mid-1600's — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.95.11.41 (talk) 04:55, 9 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
here's a priest ordination for a criollo in 1684 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18376-25521-47?cc=1874591&wc=M99L-KDS:338133613 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.95.11.41 (talk) 09:01, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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This article debunks the Royalist accusations of Jewishness against Miguel Hidalgo. ·maunus · snunɐɯ· 10:06, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Some Misconceptions About the Crypto-Jews in Colonial Mexico Martin A. Cohen American Jewish Historical Quarterly Vol. 61, No. 4 (JUNE, 1972), pp. 277-293
The links to source [2], [3], [8] and [9] don't work. The statements citing these sources need to be checked. Also, the "Education, ordination and early career" section should be broken up into three categories for clarity.
These statements need to be backed up by sources: "The insurgents overwhelmed the defenses after two days and killed everyone inside, an estimated 400 - 600 men, women and children. Allende strongly protested these events and while Hidalgo agreed that they were heinous, he also stated that he understood the historical patterns that shaped such responses." The statement implies that Hidalgo condoned the killings, when his stance may be much more nuanced. Amandayeoh (talk) 21:22, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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this is mentioned as a torture. A symbolic scraping of hands was part of the defrocking ceremony. Then he was handed over. The state would have no reason to repeat this particular gesture. The English source doesn't mention it, and I don't know Spanish. --142.163.195.49 (talk) 22:02, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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