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Irevered the statement that the Daimler Reitwagen is not in fact the first internal combustion motorcycle. Obviously there's a handful of Italian sources that say the Motrice Pia is the first, but I think it qualifies as a fringe theory, as discussed in Wikipedia:Fringe theories. I don't think we have any explanation for why the mainstream sources don't discuss it: we just have to put it out there and leave it at that. The verifable facts are:
The four sources mentioned are good enough, but I don't see how Wikipedia editors are empowered to overturn the opinions of large numbers of experts in a field who agree on something. I can see how anyone might decide the experts are all wrong, but we can't actually go there ourselves. Some have said we even go too far in even giving the Michaux-Perreaux steam velocipedeorRoper steam velocipede so much attention, since the existence of the debate about them is not found outside the specialist motorcycle press. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 14:39, 31 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I am the one who requested an article on the Motrice Pia and added the redlinks to the Template:Early motorcycles, because I think it should be taken seriously. But we need to properly share what we know about this with readers and stop there without drawing conclusions. We can't instruct readers, we can't tell them what to think -- if we were to do so I'd be telling them the first motorcycle was the Roper or the Michaux-Perreaux anyway. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 22:41, 31 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]