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2 Language question  
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3 Content question  
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4 Choral singing  
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5 Medieval Contrapuntal Music  
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6 Pop/Rock  
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7 Welsh music is very LGBTQ  
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    unsigned and undated comment (pre-January 2013)[edit]

    Answer: according to Wikipedia Brian_Jones, "His parents, Louis and Louisa Jones, were of Welsh descent" ...

    Question: since when was Brian Jones Welsh?


    Language question[edit]

    I thought that the expression "The triple harp IS a distinctive tradition" is not correct English. Physical things cannot BE "a tradition", can they ? But I am not a native speaker, and English is full of idioms, so I prefer to ask before altering the article text. Regards, 147.142.186.54 13:22, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    You're correct, it's grammatically incorrect to say the triple harp is a tradition. It would be more correct to say 'the triple harp is a traditional instrument' or 'playing the triple harp is a distinctive tradition'. 77.99.12.140 (talk) 19:31, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

    Content question[edit]

    I wish to include an extra reference to choirs in here, it currently only lists one internationally acknowledged Welsh choir. I'm currently researching choirs, and i have come across others - i think it's worth having reference to more than one here, and have come across one that recently won the Welsh national choir title for this years Eistedffod - http://www.trelawnydmalevoicechoir.com - and i think it would be worth including them as well? I've been asked to put this information up on the discussion page for debate. Jono wales 09:09, 28 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

    Choral singing[edit]

    I was very surprised to find that Welsh choral singing was a redlink, and even more surprised to find that it does not have its own subsection at this article. I have redirected it here temporarily, but it surely deserves its own article? Tons of wonderful ext ref material, and it is surely something that Wales is so widely known for, that it must constitute a key national cultural characteristic, in the same way as our long list of Scottish inventions is dear to the hearts of Scots, or as cheese-making is a precious art to the French nation.--Mais oui! (talk) 05:46, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

    Medieval Contrapuntal Music[edit]

    Gerald of Wales recorded in his Itinerarium Cambriae, "When the Welsh people gather, as they often do, they sing their traditional music. But they do not sing as the people in the rest of the world do, in a single voice. They sing in many voices, as many as there are people." This was written in 1191.

    In order for people to sing in many voices, they have to be singing contrapuntally. In order for them to sing in as many voices are there are people, they would have to be improvising counterpoint. Doing this as described implies that not just the professional musicians, but the common people understood counterpoint well enough to improvise. The process of getting this knowledge into a population must have taken a very long time, particularly at that time, when very few people read music, and the methods of recording it were not fully developed. My guess is that this means a thorough exposure to counterpoint among the Welsh people had to have been completed by 1170, and begun no later than 1100.

    Wikipedia does not have a history in its article on counterpoint, but the references I have seen indicate it was invented in the vicinity of Paris in about 1250. I think it is clear that counterpoint was invented in Wales. Great historians will no doubt disagree with me.

    One way or the other, something about Gerald of Wales should be included in this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by George H. Harvey (talkcontribs) 16:59, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Pop/Rock[edit]

    Seems incomplete as it doesn't cover the whole mass of active rock/pop in Wales that *chose* to be Welsh language - groups like Edward H Dafis and Anhrefn are rather important in the whole picture but much of that element is simply not covered in the article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.2.110.250 (talk) 19:02, 4 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

    Welsh music is very LGBTQ[edit]

    Very LGBTQ 2.219.163.34 (talk) 21:22, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

    Move discussion in progress[edit]

    There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Welsh traditional music which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 15:53, 6 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]


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