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chinni September 5 2005
the following statement in early life and political career, "This won him wide appreciation from both his party cadre and the public" seems to glorify him a lot.....even statements like ,"During this tenure Naidu systematically introduced transparency in Government, breaking the tradition of inordinate secrecy in the Finance department." seem like glorification campaign...although he is a able and efficient administrator ,the above statements dont seem to reflect wiki's NPOV.....Gprince007 11:38, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
Those sentences have been edited and a section about his loss of ministership is also added. So I guess now the debate about NPOV could stop?--Sandeep346 (talk) 06:03, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
There are a number of issues to be addressed in the text, please refer to hidden comments marked "Copyeditor's note". Also, this article has hardly any references, and badly needs more (citeable) criticism of Naidu to balance the POV. Cricketgirl 20:40, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
I have added a few references that found for some of the quotes and facts. I am sure some one would do the criticism part :) --Sandeep346 (talk) 16:49, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I am pretty surprised that this aritlces neutrality is being disputed. Pretty much all the quotes, and rather ambitious claims have been cited.
Every quote now has a reference cited from the internet.And I am pleasantly surprised all the quotes were found on the net. I am sure now we can stop the debate about the accuracy of the article--Sandeep346 (talk) 16:47, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
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I am added the reference required for this article, if u need are any clarification regarding this i can help you guys.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Bnareshbabu (talk • contribs) 21:29, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
Looks like this page too a big step backwards on the latest POV edits. Not a single line has references. Also, looks like most of the editing was done by one fan. We need to revert it back to the last Gprince edit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.73.148.245 (talk) 19:25, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
The current article has POV.Either the author forgot to update the article with recent events or its a case of POV.A lot of things has happened ever since he has been ousted from chief-ministership.Also no talks of farmer deaths,rise of priced in basic amenities etc etc.--Sahodaran 15:27, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
This is an article about an eminent personality and should be treated with respect. His party has been ousted from power which is mentioned in the article. It is due to the collective loss of the political party and not the responsibility of naidu. It should be pointed out that he WON the elections in his constituency with RECORD MAJORITY WITHOUT CAMPAIGNING at all. So we better not debate about the neutrality of the article. It surely doesnt look like a fan site for naidu because it mentions his losing his chief minsitership as well. But I do agree that the article needs to be updated with the events that happened after 2006.--Sandeep346 (talk) 16:44, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
So "N" is the first of his two given names, and not an abbreviation of a title or anything? --Menchi 05:25, Aug 1, 2003 (UTC)
Indian names are usually long with the father's name or native place's name being the surname and the caste being the last name. So in his case, Nara is derived from his village naravaripally, which literally means "Village of Nara" in telugu, and his last name is Naidu, which is the name of his caste in hindu religion. His give name is chandra babu.--Sandeep346 (talk) 16:39, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Your wrong there. Father name becoming the last name is only done in Tamil Nadu as far as I know. In Andhra Pradesh it is the same as everywhere else. Nara is his surname and Naidu is suffix/middle name. Naidu in this case is not suffix which tells his caste as he is not a Naidu so in otherwords thats his middle name. Naravaripalle (translation above is wrong correct translation is "Nara's Village" Naravari translates to Nara's) name it self is telling village was named after his family being a dominant family at a certain time which is how most villages and towns are named in India. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.195.214.52 (talk) 19:31, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
guyz... did anybody think of adding a point about I afro asian games conducted in hyderabad in 2003 , under his tenure and cheif minister...
this is a very important matter as the afro asian games has a big page in wiki.... Afro_asian_games — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.196.206.222 (talk • contribs)
added 3 sections - Tenure as CM, defeat in 2004 and his legacy. --Hydman 10:15, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Chandra Babu Naidu is one of the living legend and a person of great foresight. Due to his futuristic vision Andhra Pradesh has become a hub for IT. Under his able leadership AP has made great progress but unfortunately the climatic conditions were not good during some of the years while he was in power. Congress came into power due to this natural calamities otherwise there was no chance for them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.197.253.62 (talk • contribs)
Okay. So, there have been excessive edits adding in poorly written and poorly thought out cruft. Examples of problems are lines like:
The reference for the above quote was set as http://www.aponline.gov.in/quick%20links/economic%20survey/janambhoomi.pdf - and that whole paragraph was taken from that PDF - word for word. Which is a problem in itself. The other issue is that this is simply propaganda from the organisation responsible for the program. It's hardly something that should be referenced. That would be like referencing a North Korean website extolling the virtures of that country. There needs to be reliable THIRD party references.
The paragraph:
and the line:
are simply political promotional material. This is NOT what an encyclopedia should contain. Not at all. There are more examples of this. The references notwithstanding, this should NOT be put back in without some reputable and verifiable 3rd party references. Ccrashh (talk) 12:35, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
Mr. Naidu has been evincing a keen interest in rural development activities in general and, the upliftment of the poor and downtrodden sections of society in particular./ Rhis may Be agnist POV//
While pursuing his post graduation, he worked out to lay a road from Rangampet village to Naravaripalli with the support of the people in his village, adjacent villagers and his friends. // These sentence are true, we have telugu news paper cutings is it enough for this one//
This was a real example for his leadership qualities. // It May Be aganist POV//
I am asking you guys all the above stuf is agnist POV, are last sentecne is agnist POV. can you give the break up wich is agnist POV and wich NPOV. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.126.245.198 (talk) 12:40, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
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There seems to some biased posts and falsehoods being propagated by vested interests to defame Chandrababu Naidu. This is a ripe case where people with malicious intent gained access to the page and preventing editing out of falsehoods. I dare you to open the page.
Ghan0011 (talk) 04:55, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
How about the following line. "Naidu fought tooth and nail to halt the investigation". The line seems to be suggesting that Naidu was trying hard with some sort of fear to stop the investigation, this sort of writing cannot come from an unbiased mind and is against Wikipedia policies, neither is this substantiated by any unbiased publication.
Also, about the reasons for the debacle. The literacy rate cause, real employee wages cause are unsubtantiated as they came from a biased pro-communist author, Palagummi Sainath. What we need here is a link to the project report from a government agency in India to be unbiased here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghan0011 (talk • contribs) 06:46, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
@ Ghan CBI case may be biased but look at http://www.eaber.org/node/22385, you will see that GDP growth rate average 5.8% during Naidu rule (1996-2004) lower than national average, http://www.cato.org/economic-freedom-india/Chapter3.pdf this report further shows GDP growth rate averaged 9.06% in 2004-2009 and how AP achieved higher growth rate later.
please read this report http://www.nfhsindia.org/NFHS-3%20Data/ap_state_report_printed_version_for_website.pdf , you will find that what is written in wikipedia is factually correct. Wikipedia should not delete the facts just because they are against him
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.200.5.84 (talk) 10:57, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
This article is prone to vandalism. I request wiki to protect this article so that it won't become a fan page or hate page of concerned person — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.200.10.231 (talk) 22:59, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
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Chandrababu Naidu has recently won the reelection for Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh. 50.140.154.192 (talk) 23:21, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
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kindly, list that NCN has become the first CM of Seemandhra in the present elections, his promises and the majority with which TDP has won.
Thanks. 50.167.181.144 (talk) 23:42, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
I have reverted the change in the name of this article. N. Chandrababu Naidu is his common name, "Nara" is rarely expanded. Please start a formal move request and discussion before doing this again. See his own Twitter, for example.—indopug (talk) 04:01, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
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He now the majority in Andhra Pradesh assembly. Lohithnamini (talk) 08:45, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
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The 63-year-old former Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh undertook 'Vastunna Meekosam' (I am coming for you) padayatra to reinvent himself as the leader as well as the party that has been out of power for nine years now.
Flanked by almost all the top leaders of TDP and film star Nandamuri Balakrishna, Chandrababu unveiled a 60-feet pylon at Sivaji Nagar on the outskirts of the port city to mark the culmination of the 2817-km foot march that had begun at Hindupur in Anantapuram district o ..
Read more at: //economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/19758233.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst 137.186.92.119 (talk) 05:31, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
the reference [19] says 1 km not 11km. is this another propaganda?
In the "Early life and education" section, link to his native district is incorrect. It should be Chittoor, not Chittor. Dhawangupta (talk) 05:10, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
A big political persona's Wikipedia is recommended to be semi - restricted to edit as it might be prone to vandalism Iamenenra (talk) 23:50, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
A. The article goes in excess details of each and every policy, achievement and programme taken up by the subject, for example
B. Fan POV
I've tagged the article so that the editor's attention is drawn towards the issues, while some sections may be improved by individual editors, the article as an whole may need a revamp to change its tone and content to comply with encyclopedic standards. Regards -- Ab207 (talk) 14:37, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
This cleanup todos list is being updated regularly when some re-work is done. As of 28 February 2022[update]:
[...] he pursued his degree at Sri Venkateswara Arts College in Tirupati.Determine RS for the book. Update 1 August 2021: Sourced from book Special:Diff/1036623047
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We used to grow sugarcane, then make jaggery.I missed it yesterday. -- DaxServer (talk) 17:02, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
[...] started off as a students' union leader in Sri Venkateswara University while pursuing his Masters in Economics.-- DaxServer (talk) 18:02, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
@Alalch E.: Some sections contain the information about other personalities not focussing on this subject can you refer to the above consensus to add the respective past editors content or atleast allow me to edit now? (Seeking permission because I don't want to interrupt your editting) Thank you 456legend(talk) 15:37, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
I will be considering this and working upon it since previous editors also quit working on this article. 456legend(talk) 16:00, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
I've added the Covid section (Special:Diff/1024060044/1024851939) in late-May. The case has been dormant and probably forgotten by the media. I propose its removal citing comments by a politician, and that they comment on whole lot of things, most of which are simply politics and non-notable. -- DaxServer (talk) 16:07, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
Is it significant because of the massacre of TDP members? Should it be expanded? Or be removed as politicians agitate and are arrested all the time? Unlike Jagan, CBN was never in jail, wasn't he? -- DaxServer (talk) 17:13, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
This section is to discuss content that could be sourced from the book ISBN 9789387146587. -- DaxServer (talk) 18:04, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Page #4 [...] Naidu is the eldest of the four siblings and has a younger brother Nara Ramamurthy Naidu and two younger sisters, Rajeswari and Hymavathi.
This seems to be okay to source. Should we add names, or simply say a younger brother and two younger sisters him being the eldest? -- DaxServer (talk) 18:10, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Page #4 Born to Nara Kharjura Naidu and Amanamma on 20 April 1950, [...]
I think the note in the article stating a spelling variant could be dropped. Do we want to cite this book along with Rediff? -- DaxServer (talk) 14:18, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
Page #7 Once he got the idea generating income from sugarcane cultivation, Chandrababu and his friends took up jaggery production and sold 75 kgs of jaggery.
Could this be sourced as "During his childhood, along with his friends, he sold jaggery for income."? -- DaxServer (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
BA from Sri Venkateswara Arts College. Page #7 Later, he pursued his degree at Sri Venkateswara Arts College in Tirupati.
Looks okay to me. Year 1972 is sourced from Rediff. -- DaxServer (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Reason for dropping of PhD. Page #8 However, Naidu discontinued his PhD die to his uninhibited interest in student politics.
Could this be sourced as "(from article:) ... but did not complete his PhD because of his interests in politics."? -- DaxServer (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Chairman of SVU Economics department while he was a student. Page #8-9 At that time, the University had 32 departments, and each department had a chairman, elected by the students. In turn, they elect the chairman of the college. Naidu, a student of economics, who was also the chairman of the department, did not contest for the college championship. Instead, he succeeded in getting his man elected and gained an upper hand over his opponents in the student election.
Could this be sourced as "During his education at SBU, he was elected as the chairman of the Economics department, in which he is a student of."? -- DaxServer (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Collecting donations for 1977 Andhra Pradesh cyclone. Page #9 Following the 1977 cyclone, which devastated the Diviseema Taluk of Krishna District, he actively collected donations and relief from Chittoor District for cyclone victims.
Could this be sourced in Early political career, or an appropriate chronological biographical order? -- DaxServer (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Being offered a lectureship at SVU. Page #9-10 Soon after, he left his Alma Mater, Naidu had three options to choose as his career path. [...] Kotha Satchidananda Murthy, a Buddhist scholar, who was serving as the Vice-Chancellor of SVU, offered Naidu lectureship at the university. [...] Finally, he zeroed in on entering active politics as it would give him the opportunity to serve active politics.
Could this be sourced as "After he left his Alma Mater at SVU, he was offered a lectureship at the university, which he did not take upon."? The Economic Times source says that he dropped PhD after he become a minister.[1] Perhaps he was offered after his Masters?
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Wanted to contest in MLC elections. Psge #10 By then, the 24-year-old Naidu was growing restless and wanted to try his hand at MLC elections from Teacher's Constituency in Chittoor district. As the minimum age to contest as a public representative was 25, Naidu dropped the idea.
This would go into Early political career if sourced, in an appropriate wording. -- DaxServer (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
1976 MLC election nomination. Page #10 In 1976, when the Council sear fell vacant from the Teacher's Constituency, senior Congress leader N Janardhan Reddy, who later became Chief Minister, had put up his nominee Anam Sanjiva Reddy while Naidu, who was a student leader, filed his nomination. That was when Janardhan Reddy had sent a word to Naidu that he was going to lose the nomination anyway. But, if he withdrew, Janardhan Reddy would help him grow politically at the appropriate time. This time came soon as Reddy suggested Naidu's name to the Congress high command against the wishes of Amarnath Reddy, who was the most influential leader in Chittoor District. Vengal Rao agreed to Naidu's nomination and so did the then Prime Minister of India, Indira Gandhi.
To source: that he filed nomination for MLC election, but did not contest? Could "..., but did not contest upon an intimation from Janardhan Reddy", this seems a bit murky. How could it be structured? -- DaxServer (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Jalagam Vengala Rao's suggestion to support Zilla Parishad elections. Page #10 (continued from above citation.) During this time, he got an opportunity to meet the then Chief Minister of Andhra Pradesh, Jalagam Vengal Rao, who suggested him to plat an active role in Zilla Parishad (local body) elections.
Do we source the interaction with Vengala Rao? The details seem not so strong as the others. -- DaxServer (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
1978 ticket because of belonging to Kamma (caste). Page #11 The Congress (I) as a strategy, was looking for younger people to take on the stalwarts to counter the Reddy hegemony in the district. As a candidate belonging to the Kamma community, Naidu was chosen and given the ticket.
-- DaxServer (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Page #11 See above for quote. Could this be sourced as "He belongs to/born in a Kamma family."? -- DaxServer (talk) 11:51, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
Page #11 See above for quote. Could this be sourced for him belonging to/born in a Telugu family? Looks like synthesis to me? -- DaxServer (talk) 11:51, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
Page #11 See above for quote. This would clear that he joined Congress (I) (Indira Gandhi's), one of the todos in the section above. -- DaxServer (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Family help for 1978 campaign. Page #11 In his initial years in politics, Naidu's election campaigning included his family's contribution too. While he, along with his brother and cousins, planned strategies [...] his mother woke up early in the morning and prepared sambar rice and curd rice (for party workers). Naidu's sisters rallied girl students from the University in Tirupati [...]
Could this be sourced as "He won the 1978 election, with the support during campaigning from his family."? Or "His family supported and campaigned for him." in the 1978 section? -- DaxServer (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Bill Clinton. Page #11 [...] on the other end of the world in the United States, his friend and future President of the United States of America, Bill Clinton (who he was destined to meet), become the Governor of Arkansas in the same year [...]
Please put this on-hold until I could gather further details about Clinton in the book. -- DaxServer (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Page #11-12 He was a huge admirer of Nandamuri Taraka Rama Rao's (NTR) movies and adored the top Telugu star. During his term as the minister for cinematography, Naidu met NTR's son Nandamuri Jayakrishna who was a noted cinematographer and exhibitor of the time. He requested Jayakrishna to set up a meeting with NT Rama Rao as he wanted to meet his favourite actor. His fanboy dream came true when Naidu met his future father-in-law [...]
Could this be sourced, minus the author's expression of his admiration? -- DaxServer (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Marriage day. Page #12 It was decided that the wedding would be held in Madras (now Chennai), which was the hub if Telugu and Tamil film industry. [...] On 10 September 1981, the day of the wedding, film star, politician and cultural icon of Tamil Nadu MG Ramachandran, a close friend of NTR attended the wedding. The then Andhra Pradesh Chief Minister Anjaiah and his cabinet ministers, [...]
I see four items that could be sourced: Marriage day. Marriage place. MGR and Anjaiah being one of the guests. NTR and MGR being [close] friends on their articles, if not sourced already, but this is secondary. -- DaxServer (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Naidu expressing interest in working with NTR before TDP is formed. Page #13 The final straw came when Rajiv Gandhi, [...], lublicly rebucked Anjaiah at Hyderabad's Begumpet airport [...] This incident led to a public outcry and the demand for Telugus' "atma gauravam" (self-respect of Telugus) was highlighted by NTR. Amidst such political instability in the state, Naidu informed his father-in-law about hhis interest in working with him. However, NTR had convinced Naidu to remain with the Congress as it was an established party and that he was growing in his political career, unline the one he was planning to launch.
Could this be sourced? -- DaxServer (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Viewed as untrustworthy candidate within the Congress party. Page #13 (continued from above citation.) This period was one of the most testing times for Naidu as he as being viewed as a untrustworthy candidate within the Congress party as his father-in-law was gearing up to launch a new political party.
Could this be sourced? -- DaxServer (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Return to Tirupati as 1983 defeat. Page #14 In the 1983 election, Naidu lost his bid for re-election to the assembly from the Congress and returned to Tirupati to start a business.
Could this be sourced? Details about business were not said. -- DaxServer (talk) 20:00, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Joining TDP. Page #14 (continued from above citation.) After NTR's call in the following year, Naidu joined the TDP to help his father-in-law in strengthening the party.
Is that 1983 or 1984? The India Today source infers 1983.[1]
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It's true fact 123.201.208.175 (talk) 18:34, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
Kindly reach to the concensus and follow up the previous concensus by the previous editors in another section on this talk page.
Provide sources before adding any content. Disruptive edits are not accepted as per Wikipedia.
Some of the content here is highly questionable since the original content by the previous editors was deleted and replaced by a new editor in his/her tone. And this problem was not addressed at the right time. 456legend(talk) 16:26, 24 December 2022 (UTC)