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Does the following really belong in the intro?

"In April 2006, Universal Pictures UK decided to advance the download-to-own sales channel so they set up an agreement with LOVEFILM, Europe’s largest company in the online DVD rental and Video On Demand (VOD) business, to launch the UK’s first feature-film (DTO - Download To Own) internet sales channel this week. Starting with King Kong and other recent movies to follow."

Shouldn't it be in another section? --Sliver7 17:51, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree, it should probably be in the Film section. --Paul1337 18:36, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

I've made that change.--Sliver7 12:30, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

The tag at the bottom of this and most other of their subsidiaries is outdated. If no one objects I will begin working on it and making sure there is one for each article (USF and IOA don't have it for sure).--Farquaadhnchmn 16:45, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Sometime last year, Vivendi had sold the rest of the 20% of Universal Studios to GE. So now, GE owns 100% of NBC Universal. King Shadeed 11:47, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Any proof or evidence of them selling the 20% to GE, like an article or something? 24.7.217.221 23:10, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

See Vivendi King Shadeed 02:21, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Actually, according to Vivendi's website, "Vivendi has informed GE of its decision not to exercise its exit rights with respect to NBC Universal in January 2007. Vivendi will remain a shareholder in NBC Universal, in which it has a 20% stake." So, actually, Shadeed, you were wrong. Vivendi has NOT sold their 20%. In fact, here's the article for EVERYONE to read: Vivendi remains 20% shareholder in NBC Universal; Modifies terms of its agreement 24.7.217.221 01:52, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

The MarketWatch article I just saw also supports that. As I understand it, GE will use the proceeds from Comcasts' buyout to purchase Vivendi's stake.--Janus657 (talk) 02:13, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Damn, this article needs a f**k load of work. I'll have a crack at it once I'm done with SNL, but that's going to be a while still. A quick request though. NBC has made their press articles way more complicated to access than they need to be, and while I can get to a text html version, I'm unable to access it without getting a print dialog popping up. Does anyone know how to get the raw text version without the dialog?

Here is the link I'm using: https://www.nbcumv.com/mv/PrintAndEmail.do?method=printAssetsLink&printParaMeter=com.ge.nbc.cms.mv.jaxb.PressRelease@679a7ae9&dateStr=October%2002,%202009&thumbnail=https://www.nbcumv.com//images/thumbnails/2009/9/NUP_134426/NUP_134426_0067.JPG&network=&program=&pressPath=contents/press-releases/2009/10/02/nbc46comgivesvi1254508680198.xml&showLabel=

Mainly.generic (talk) 04:19, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

I have read in an online article that a deal took place in which NBC Universal is now owned by Comcast (51%) and GE (49%).

I think the page should be updated to reflect that.

Here is the link to the article:

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Thanks,

--BOLD (talk) 00:42, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

I fixed the error in the information bar. Hope this helped. --BOLD (talk) 16:23, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

The Comcast-GE deal has been approved by FCC and DOJ, but it is not complete. It is expected to finalize by the end of January. Till then, as I understand it, GE is still majority owner.--Janus657 (talk) 21:53, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

The deal will be completed on January 28th. Is it seriously that big a deal to change it now in the "parent" company entry to include Comcast in the info bar? http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/done-deal-fcc-department-of-justice-approve-comcast-nbc-universal-acquisition_b48942

Yes, it actually is. WP is not a crystal ball. WHile highly unlikey, the deal could still fall through. Why can't you wait 2 days to change it? - BilCat (talk) 02:23, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

I also noticed some ambiguity in the information sidebar.

This article lists Universal Studios as a division of NBC Universal, but the Universal Studios article on Wikipedia lists it as a subsidiary of NBC Universal.

Which is correct and can the other be fixed?

Thanks,

--BOLD (talk) 00:56, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NBC_Universal
• http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=NBC_Universal&action=edit

--222.64.219.102 (talk) 02:02, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Please be patient, and wait until the slae is officilly changed to make changes to the ownership, logos, and spelling of the name. Also, these need to be confirmed through reliable, preferably including company, sources, not just media insider blogs. Hopefully we won't need to protect the page to prevent such changes, but it may become necessary. - BilCat (talk) 21:35, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

"Premature" sounds right. Here's a quote from a January 28 Associated Press article via Washington Post article:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/28/AR2011012801656.html

NBC Universal is now NBCUniversal - without the space, the peacock or the globe silhouette....The bird will remain part of the brand of NBC, the broadcaster, while the spinning globe will still be part of the graphic for Universal, the movie studio and theme park operator. And officially, the company's name is still NBC Universal. But the space-less corporate logo is meant to represent the unity of its two main divisions as it is set to be taken over by cable operator Comcast in a deal that is to close on Friday.

That contradicts the "NBCUniversal, Inc." used in http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=NBC_Universal&oldid=410574466, the current version of the article. My guess is that the AP is probably a bit more reliable than the current January 27 ref currently used in the intro:

http://www.wktv.com/news/entertainment/NBC-Universal-now-NBCUniversal-under-Comcast-114748689.html

Perhaps further research is required here. 67.101.6.21 (talk) 17:36, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

From this press release by Comcast, it's clear that the new joint venture between Comcast and GE is called "NBCUniversal, LLC". To quote, "Comcast Corporation (Nasdaq: CMCSA, CMCSK) and General Electric (NYSE: GE) yesterday closed their transaction to create a joint venture, NBCUniversal, LLC." I think that overides any other earlier reports in the media. Thus the article on the current company should either be at NBCUniversal, or possibly NBCUniversal, LLC. I've propsed splititng the article below to have the older company owned by GE and Vivendi at NBC Universal, Inc., as it is a separate entity. - BilCat (talk) 04:58, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Move protected for one day

As this fairly high profile article has been moved to new names three times in the last three days, I've protected it from further moves for the next 24 hours to allow time for a discussion of what the most appropriate name should be. Please note that I haven't protected the content of the article in any way. Cheers, Nick-D (talk) 22:17, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

"NBC Universal, Inc." and "NBCUniversal, LLC" are 2 wholly different companies. NBCUniversal now includes the ccable networks of Comcast, and is a joint-venture company between Comcst and GE. I think it would be better historically to cover each company separately. The old article can be moved to NBC Universal, Inc., with the new one split to NBCUniversal. - BilCat (talk) 01:11, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

• Oppose. Just as we don't have a separate article for "Chrysler Group LLC" and "Chrysler LLC", or "General Motors Corporation" and "Genereal Motors Comapny LLC". The transfer of some Comcast assets into NBC Universal after the ownership changes doesn't warant a new article on what is essentially the same company. A reorganization in the wake of corporate changes is expected, but doesn't fundamentally alter the name or position of the company. After all, the "old" NBC Universal was itself a joint-venture company between GE and Vivendi. The change in the owners of the joint venture doesn't make it a new company.oknazevad (talk) 01:59, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
  • Splits of this type are best handled on a case-by-case basis, and in this case, I do believe it is warranted. While you are correct that Chrysler covers the company's entire history through several ownrse and reorganizations, we do have Daimler-Benz and Daimler AG. Also, I don't belive that NBC Universal was strictly a joint-venture between GE and Vivendi, not legally anyway. I don't understand the nuances of it all, but the new company is of a different type. - BilCat (talk) 21:59, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
    • And the "new" GM is an LLC while the old one was a "Corporation", a "different type". And the "old" NBC Universal was an 80-20 split between GE and Vivendi; it indeed was a joint venture of the two. Indeed, the recent ownership changes consisted of GE buying out Vivendi's 20%, then selling 51% of the company to Comcast. oknazevad (talk) 00:57, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
      • Joint ownership is not the same thing as a joint venture. Anyway, most of the others didn't involve changes to the name, etc. I still believe separate article would enable better coverage of the subjects. - BilCat (talk) 03:08, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

It is a joint venture between Comcast and General Electric. This is how it should be reflected in the article. 71.101.84.191 (talk) 08:08, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

There is a SEC prospectus here ( http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/902739/000119312511243061/d424b3.htm ) I wonder if it would be ok to update the article with the revenues/profit informations from the prospectus? 132.203.170.161 (talk) 04:30, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

On 12 February 2013, Comcast announced it intends to buy out GE's stake in NBC Universal. Well-meaning editors need to stop changing the infobox as if it were a done deal. Until Comcast completes the purchase, WP:NOTCYRSTALBALL applies. Do not say that Comcast owns 100% of NBC Universal until it actually happens. —mjb (talk) 01:37, 13 February 2013 (UTC)