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Content in this edit is translated from the existing Bavarian Wikipedia article at [[:bar:Ostarrîchi]]; see its history for attribution.{{Translated|bar|Ostarrîchi}} to the talk page. |
Can't someone translate the Latin text into English? 惑乱 分からん 14:19, 26 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There is another article of Ostmark mentioning the similar contents with this article. It should be combine to this. --QBay 05:00, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, misunderstand --QBay 05:15, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The article says:
This is the first time I see this etymology. I find it highly interesting, but we need a source for this claim. What was the "local language" at the time? --Austrian (talk) 14:08, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I see, so I am not a guy from the East (Ost-rian), but rather a guy with a pointed head (Ostri-an)... At least if professor Kronsteiner is right. But we should make it clear that this is not the mainstream opinion. --Austrian (talk) 16:20, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In Arabic Austria is calledالنمسا An-Namsa. This derives from the Slavic word for German--nemets. As Austria was the largest German speaking nation to border the Muslim world (the Ottoman Empire) Austria was called Namsa or Namcha in Ottoman Turkish, Persian and Arabic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahassan05 (talk • contribs) 18:41, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The article says:
"Reich also means "realm" or "empire", but this is a false cognate."
but then goes on to say:
"Österreich is derived from Old High German Ostarrîchi ... Old High German rihhi had the meaning of "realm, domain"."
So it sounds like reich and richi are in fact cognates? I'm confused. --Jfruh (talk) 04:24, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The lead derives『Österreich』from the Old High German word Osterrîchi and implies that Ostarrîchi is known from a single source. The next section derives it from Old High German Ostarrîchi, from ōstan "eastern", and goes on to speak about the variant Ostarrîchi. I suppose the error is in the first sentence of section one, but that doesn't seem to fit the ainōstan. Could someone clarify? --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 18:16, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
PS. Neither dewiki nor barwiki mention Osterrîchi. --ἀνυπόδητος (talk) 18:22, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The use of diacritics in this article is confusing. It should be explicit on the precise spellings attested in the sources, and especially the diacritics which are found as such, and those which are not. If the sources always spell ostarrichi/osterriche, adding circumflexes as length diacritics is essentially an interpretation (especially in the case of a name whose etymology is the subject of some controversy). At least be consistent. If Ostarrichi is derived from ōstan/ōstar- and rīhhi, either add macrons on both parts of the word or leave them away completely. Ostarrîchi is a weird mixture. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 23:08, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I am very doubtful about the following, especially since it does not appear in any relevant articles in the German or Bavarian Wikipedias:
Does anyone know what Heer's source was?
Our Noricum article does not provide an etymology, merely stating that it was named after the lost city of Noreia: "The original population appears to have consisted of Pannonians (a people kin to the Illyrians), who, after the great migration of the Gauls, became subordinate to various Celto-Ligurian tribes, chief amongst them being the Taurisci, who were probably identical with the Norici of Roman sources, so called after their capital Noreia, whose location is, as yet, unknown." The Noreia article does not explain the etymology.
Furthermore, reconstructed Proto-Celtic lexicons do not list "nor-" at all. There are different versions of reconstructed word for east, including *φari-tero (phari-tero) (University of Wales) and *usāri-s (Proto-Celtic Language [Facebook group]). (The Gaelic for east is Thoir, pronounced something like "tair" while eastern is oirthear or "air-her"; the Welsh equivalents are "Dwyrain", which is pronounced something like "doorin" and dwyreiniol, "dooriniol".)
Grant | Talk 09:51, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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