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The Reed Dictionary tribal map has a-macrons for every "Ngati" but not for "Ngai". My page on the Maori WP says "Ngai"; maybe I can get someone from that iwi to take an interest and tell us what they prefer. Robin Patterson 20:11, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Ngai/Kai Tahu does have a macron. Macrons are a relatively new addition to the transcription of Te Reo, but indicate long vowels. In this instance it is definitely long. Consistent with this functional definition, it also features on the Ngai Tahu website. I've also taken the liberty to expand it a little more, and will hopefully add more as I find the time. Your friendly Kai Tahu sociolinguist.
Should the page not better be moved to Kāi Tahu? There is little use in using a Standard dialect title for the page containing most information on the Ngāi Tahu dialect... ;-) Dysmorodrepanis 14:27, 8 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
One further issue. According to Jim Williams, Otago University's expert on the iwi, the Kai of Kai Tahu has a short a: Kai Tahu, not Kāi Tahu. I found this surprising, but John C. Moorfield in Te Aka, the dictionary for his Te Whanake series of books on the Māori language, gives the following entry for Ngāi Tahu:
No macron. He uses the same form in the glossary of Te Kakano, the first book of the series. Koro Neil (talk) 04:34, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I remember I used to see the K in Kāi Tahu occasionally being written with what I assume was a macron below (ie., Ḵ). What's the status on this spelling? --73.231.253.68 (talk) 23:39, 18 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The Ngai Tahu tribe is considered to be one of the most successful tribes in New Zealand commercially. I couldn't find a list of their assets but perhaps someone more familiar with the tribe can help me out adding to the section.
"the last Upoko Ariki (paramount chief), Te Maiharanui". Is this correct? In the late 1970s and early 80s Riki Ellison was often referred to the paramount chief. See for example [2]. Nurg 10:06, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
@Nurg: As of writing [3], said this:『Kāi Tahu has a very corporate structure, in part due to the death of an important Upoko Ariki (paramount chief), Te Maiharanui, at the time of the arrival of Europeans in New Zealand.』So that's changed.
→Governance: I added the clarify tag, as what does the chief's death have to do with the very corporate structure? How did it change things? Ken K. Smith (a.k.a. User:Thin Smek) (talk) 07:58, 16 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Ngai Tahu are the only iwi in Category:Ethnic groups in New Zealand. Can Ngai Tahu really be considered an ethnicity? If so, surely Category:Iwi and hapu should be a subcat of Ethnic groups in NZ? Or am I missing something here? --Helenalex (talk) 05:02, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
@Helenalex: It's been changed since, now has Māori (23 C, 19 P) New Zealand Māori people (7 C, 58 P) Category:Iwi_and_hapu is empty and not included. Ken K. Smith (a.k.a. User:Thin Smek) (talk) 08:04, 16 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
From the early 1800s Ngai Tahu frequently traded with and worked for Pakeha, especially whalers, who bought a new kind of wealth -advanced technology. By the 1840s many Ngai Tahu women -some reports say as many as 74%, had married Pakeha. Intially pakeha shared the same coastal environment as Ngai Tahu but when Ngai Tahu sold large areas of land to buy muskets,Pakeha moved onto the Canterbury plains which was virtually uninhabited by Maori due to its lack of water and the foodsin the normal Maori diet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.62.226.243 (talk) 04:46, 15 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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The Ngāi Tahu § South Island rivers claim section could be worked up with additional background (not so easy to do from Berlin) and referencing. Below are possible sources.
Kia ora! RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 10:55, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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