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Should the lede be edited to be clearer on what nurses do? Right now, the first 2 sentences are: "Nursing is a profession within the health care sector focused on the care of individuals, families, and communities so they may attain, maintain, or recover optimal health and quality of life. Nurses may be differentiated from other health care providers by their approach to patient care, training, and scope of practice." This is correct, but gives very little information to the lay reader who may not already understand what different roles of health care professionals. (I could just as easily put "physiotherapist," "physician," "pharmacist," etc. in the lede and it would be just as true.) Maybe a bit on the core of nursing being medication administration and assistance with activities of daily living (or something else)? Thoughts? Nsteinberg (talk) 19:08, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
there is more than enough material for a fresh new article on History of nursing; I propose to start one, leaving a basic outline in this article. What do editors think of this idea? Rjensen (talk) 03:33, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I have removed the statement "However the BSN graduate has both more classroom and clinical hours of study in nursing than the ADN graduate.", because it is subject to conjecture. While BSN program have more classroom hours devoted to research and certain nursing theories the clinical hours are dependent upon the educational institutions program of study. Most BSN programs have the same or less amount of clinical hours required for graduation. I also removed the statement "BSN graduates are called Professional Nurses.", because it is misleading. Regardless of the degree any nurse that has passed registered nursing licensure by state or NCLEX-RN examination can be called a "Professional Nurse". — Preceding unsigned comment added by RNMyk66 (talk • contribs) 11:44, 10 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Whats The Required Education to become A Nurse Practioner? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.235.150.153 (talk) 15:07, 10 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
An image was recently added to the entry's gallery (File:US Navy 091129-N-8960W-064 Hospital Corpsman Michael Parke gives a vaccine to Lt. Carlos Lopez aboard the aircraft carrier USS Nimitz (CVN 68).jpg) which depicts a US Navy hospital corpsman giving an injection. The corpsman is identified as such in the file description, but he was described as a nurse in the caption added to this entry. The article has a number of images, so many that we don't need to include non-nursing images such as care provided by other providers. The care in the image in question does look like nursing care (except for the really awkward injection technique), but it's not nursing. I'm discussing here in the spirit of WP:BRD. EricEnfermero HOWDY! 20:29, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
ETA: Just a note that the references below are unrelated to the hospital corpsman image, but I can't figure out where they are coming from. EricEnfermero HOWDY! 20:32, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I've archived conversations prior to 2013. Basie (talk) 05:42, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The American Nurses Association (ANA) states nursing is the protection, promotion, and optimization of health and abilities, prevention of illness and injury, alleviation of suffering through the diagnosis and treatment of human response, and advocacy in the care of individuals, families, communities, and populations.[1]
I've removed this from the lead in the meantime, as it's a copyvio lifted straight from the source page. I think this might be a good opportunity to talk about how we're defining nursing. What are the best definitions? I don't think it's good enough for us to use a quote from another site or source, not in the lead at least. We need a simple, plain english, non-convoluted lead for this key article.
Ideally I'd like to take the article to GA, little by little! Basie (talk) 00:51, 7 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Thanks to Rjensen and others we have a History of nursing article. A large amount of historical material remains in this one, and I'd like us to consider paring down the historical content even further (moving content to the history article as appropriate). I think since this article covers both Nurse and Nursing we definitely need some history, but we should try to present a summary rather than fine detail.
What does everyone think? I may start quietly chipping away at the initial section, feel free to revert/discuss. Cheers, Basie (talk) 20:33, 21 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
While we're on the subject, the article claims that "the first nurse" was Phoebe. The source actually says:
The Christian St. Paul introduced a deaconess named Phoebe, a practical nurse, to Rome. She was the first visiting nurse.
(emphasis mine). It's an LPN textbook, not really a historical source. Interestingly, she's described in this source concerned with the accuracy of biblical translations as a 'minister', 'letter carrier' and/or occupied a position of church leadership. WP's Phoebe (biblical figure) has more detailed information, and doesn't mention the word "nurse" anywhere.
I suspect this is one of those assumptions based on popular mistranslation that has sprung up over time, and I'm going to remove it from the current article based on the relatively weak source. It seems impossible to know who was actually "the first nurse", depending on how you define the term. I'd welcome discussion on the issue. Cheers, Basie (talk) 03:35, 22 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I presume this and similar references are what the above visiting nurse assumption is made on. Cheers, Basie (talk) 05:14, 22 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]It was in all probability Phoebe, the friend of St. Paul, who organized on a wide scale the nursing of the poor. It is known that she was a church deacon (diakonos, "one who serves"), that she made journeys to Rome, evidently in connection with her work, and that she "succored many"
Jotting down some sources I've found that may be helpful:
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Basie (talk) 04:23, 22 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
As part of upgrading this article, I'm going to start gradually reviewing all sources cited. My plan is to remove sources I consider to be weak or unreliable. If I do remove anything, I'll place it here for further comment. I note that this article is also a part of the medical Wikiproject, which has a guideline for sourcing. Obviously it won't always be possible to use review articles for everything in Nursing, but we should strive for quality I believe.
I also plan to convert citations to use templates wherever possible, update access dates, and aim for consistency overall. As always, please feel free to comment, contribute, or suggest! Cheers, Basie (talk) 21:59, 23 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Taiwan is a country, could Some of these people you have some respect to other cultures?
is really rude, too see someone call my country fake
--Composcompos12 (talk) 14:03, 9 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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I am a little concerned that this article says very little on the work of a district nurse. In fact, when I looked at List of nursing specialties (sic), district nursing was not on the list. I shall be appreciative if this could be rectified. If changes were to be made, there could be mention that the term district nurse might be replaced by community nurse.Vorbee (talk) 15:28, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
There are citations needed in certain areas of the text. Eccstudent18 (talk) 20:13, 9 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
In the US, the Simpson's paradox explains a peculiar fact that seeing a male health provider, not wearing a badge or other insignia, is more likely to be a nurse rather than a doctor. This is due to the heavily imbalance in the gender distributions in the two primary healthcare professions (nurses and doctors).[1] This may be a nice example to add to Nursing gender issues section of the main article.
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Far too much detail about nursing training etc in individual countries. That material should be in the article about the country. Rathfelder (talk) 13:17, 6 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Hey y'all,
I am wondering how we go about rearranging the worldwide subsection so it can be alphabetical?
Also, I am thinking of adding Colombia due to a research project I am doing but I think we could benefit from adding a general Latin America sub-heading and then add Colombia. Any comments or feedback would be appreciated! D. Vase (talk) 04:22, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I added information about workplace violence within the field of Nursing and I added a few citations. I think an area for improvement on this page is to give more information regarding workplace violence in the field of Nursing. Kenziemaher (talk) 17:55, 2 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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From the article it's not clear what the differences are between these designations. Is there a designation just called nurse?
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I feel the Japan topic in nursing is too lengthy when especially it has its own main article. I would suggest to summarised it more. rektz (talk) 12:52, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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