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Talk:Paddy Moloney

A news item involving Paddy Moloney was featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the In the news section on 16 October 2021.

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I haven't seen any (reliable) source stating which one of the two dates should be recorded. The earliest notice I have seen is from today, the 12th.--FranSisPac (talk) 20:18, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I added Monday 11 October because of this source that said "He passed away last night." Graham87 09:43, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Here in the death notice: The death has occurred of Paddy MOLONEY it states he died on the 12th. Saschaporsche (talk) 22:19, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm ... maybe that's when it was officially recorded? Graham87 03:51, 15 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No, that source given above by Saschaporsche, which is a death notice issued by the undertaker on behalf of the family, definitely says "Date of Death: Tuesday 12th October 2021". That seems conclusive. "Last night" doesn't just mean the period before midnight. Monxton (talk) 13:07, 15 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough, I've changed it to the 12th. FWIW the NYT also says the 11th but that could be a timezone/citogenesis issue. Graham87 14:59, 15 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it's awkward that the death notice is a primary source, which WP prefers not to use, while nearly all the secondary sources say 11th, presumably having all copied each other. I'm not doubting that the death notice is correct, but the date will probably be "fixed" in some future edit. Monxton (talk) 23:50, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This source also says "He died suddenly on Tuesday 12 October at the age of 83." Martinevans123 (talk) 10:55, 11 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]