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The Spanish Wikipedia says the national motto is "Vencer o Morir" (es:Paraguay), while here it says "Paz y justicia". Which one is correct? -- Jpta 20:46, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)
It should be "Paz y Justicia" which is written on one side of the flag.
There are two different names. Para-guaí (for the country; apparently "this side of the river") is different from the name of Asunción in Guaraní, which is Para-gua-y (river, from, water) and pronounced differently in Guaraní
Why does this section stress the territorial gains of the Chaco War, and ignore the immense territorial loss suffered during the War of the Triple Alliance (fought between 1865-1870)? This section is poorly written, and contains misinformation. Mariscal8 01:48, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Historically, the Chaco region has been disputed by Bolivia and Paraguay, and several agreements intended to settle this dispute where signed by both countries decades before the war started. Once these agreements were broken, and war ensued, Paraguay merely reasserted its sovereignty of a territory which was considered legitimately theirs. Therefore claiming that Paraguay added territory at "the expenses of Bolivia" is misleading, and untrue. A more concise description of the Chaco war should be put forth. Feel free to contact me. Mariscal8 01:48, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Why does it say "overthrowing the local Spanish people"? This sounds childish. It should be changed.
If I'm not mistaken, while the Jesuits were expelled in 1767, the reductions remained under new civil jurisdiction, though they went into steep decline in the years following--so it may not be completely correct to say they were destroyed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mwd321 (talk • contribs) 20:56, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
- Pop6 (talk) 14:49, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
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I support the lower Kelisi map, --SqueakBox 16:55, Apr 2, 2005 (UTC)
I vote for the upper map: small simple and clear, wiki-style. The lower one is a bit ugly, confused and too big (i tried to shrink it but it renders impossible reading names).
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Any reason why the wikify template was removed? The article still does not make use of the standard country template. Greenman 09:38, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
Aug. 16, 2005. Rumsfeld is in Paraguay to meet with Duarte-Frutos to discuss bilateral military cooperation in the region. Klonimus 21:41, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
The article says that 90% speaks Guaraní, while only 75% speaks Spanish, what seams to me exagerated figures. Any official source? Mariano(t/c) 09:59, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
The Guaraní-speaking Indians of the region were drawn into colonial society principally through high rates of intermarriage and concubinage with Spanish settlers, a process that created a mestizo society within a few generations (see The Young Colony, ch. 1). In the resulting cultural synthesis, the dominant language remained Guaraní, whereas the rest of the dominant social institutions and culture remained Hispanic . . .the 1967 Constitution recognizes Guaraní as a national language.
Sociolinguist Joan Rubin characterized Paraguay as『. . . a Guaraní-speaking nation with a heavy incidence of Spanish-Guaraní bilingualism in which each language tends to fulfill distinct functions.』Spanish had been the official language since the sixteenth century, and in the late twentieth century it remained the language of government, education, and religion. Nevertheless, Paraguayans of all classes spoke Guaraní much of the time. Language use varied by social context, however. Guaraní was appropriate in more intimate contexts. Spanish was used in more formal situations; it implied respect toward one of higher status. In families, for example, parents might use Guaraní in speaking to one another and require that their children speak to them in Spanish. The upper echelons were distinguished by their relative fluency and ease in using Spanish. By contrast, most rural Paraguayans were monolingual Guaraní speakers until as late as the 1960s.
According to my own experience the figures may be true. All Paraguayans I spoke have learned Guarani to some degree (it is a class they have to follow at shool nowadays) and when I left the capitol Asuncion I've met some Paraguayans who actually couldn't speak Spanish.
Paraguayans study both Guarani and Spanish in school, studying Guarani from K- grade 12, along with Spanish. In Asuncion, you will find people who don't speak Guarani well or at all, as they are older and went to school before the educational reform of the 1990s, while the further into the countryside you go, the less likely (older) folks there will speak Spanish.
I wrote my dissertation on Paraguay - and the sources I read reckoned that it was more like 40% of Paraguayans that could speak Spanish and 90% who could speak Guarani - can't remember the source, but I wouldn't doubt the figures cited above--Pysproblem (talk) 19:54, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
Why is this segment included in Paraguay's article? Why is it so much more important to state a current news item, and alledged conspiracy theories, than to include more substantial information about this country? Also, the fact that the Paraguayan congress approved the entrance of U.S. troops in 2005 has nothing to do with the confidential memo that was leaked in 2001. I would suggest to completely eliminate this segement, and I will make some changes myself. Feel free to contact me. Mariscal8 01:47, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
What about we change that ugly image (with no source) to either this oneorthis one? --Ysangkok 21:55, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
what is this section all about? "The nation's upper classes are, typically, only a generation or two from the peasantry." As far as I know, Paraguayans I know, this is completely false. "Social life revolves largely around an extended family of parents, children and blood relations as well as godparents....". This is a bit irrelevant to an encyclopedia, I think. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 163.117.102.125 (talk • contribs) 18:59, 3 December 2006 (UTC).
And how can you confirm that these statements are false? Just because you took a straw poll among your Paraguayans friends? Would they, or would you, know of any Paraguayan upper class family that is descendant of the aristocratic colonial families from the 1800's? Sorry dude, all of those were wiped out by Francia, Lopez or they emigrated to Buenos Aires. A significant amount of families, currently considered to be part of the "elite" had very humble origins, a fact many prefer to ignore. Considering the degree of corruption existing in Paraguay, it is not suprising so many rose to such great wealth so fast. To be fair, there have been several "rags to riches" Horatio-style stories in Paraguay, but they are few. And why is it irrelevant to include familial relations in the "Culture" section of Wikipedia? Let's not be ethnocentric: just because they are not relevant to you does not mean they are not material to this article. Mariscal8 01:47, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
The fact that most wealthy upper class families in Paraguay are white and many have German/Italian/etc last names proves that most are descendants of European families. If there was a high degree of mobility between classes, a bigger part of the mestizo population would be of upper class. And I haven't seen a single wikipedia entry with familial relations in the "Culture" section. For example, this is what the Argentinian page has under Culture: 10.1 Literature 10.2 Film and theater 10.3 Painting and sculpture 10.4 Food and drink 10.5 Sports 10.6 Music 10.7 Religion 10.8 Language 10.9 Education 10.10 Holidays. This is what the United States Culture section has: 9.1 Cuisine 9.2 Visual arts 9.3 Music 9.4 Cinema 9.5 Sports. Tereré should be included, maybe chipa as well, but I would definitely get rid of the family section.
Why does it talk about curling being one of Paraguay's national sports? Curling is unknown in Paraguay, unless things have dramatically changed in the last couple of years since I've been there. The only national sport is soccer. And some of the richer people play tennis or golf. Maybe one of those is meant instead of curling (although neither are national sports). In the same vein, Paraguay doesn't market curling shoes. Again maybe a different sport is meant here. Note that this information does not appear in the Spanish section. Nathan zac 17:46, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Nathan: Of course curling is not one of Paraguay's national sports. That edit was obviously added, tongue in cheek, by someone who wanted to prove how long a wildly erroneous fact could survive intact in a wikipedia entry. Happily, it didnt last for long, but I was VERY vexed when I saw the edit. What's next? Bobsledding? This is why I think this article should be protected from vandalism. Mariscal8
In my ongoing efforts to try to include every country on the planet included in the scope of a WikiProject, I have proposed a new project on South America at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#South America whose scope would include Paraguay. Any interested parties are more than welcome to add their names there, so we can see if there is enough interest to start such a project. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 17:13, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
It's in the Economy section, in the sentence "Due to its meditereanity, Paraguay's economy is very dependent on Brazil and Argentina". The only match for this word I can find on Google is in the article itself or copies of it at other web sites. There is no match in online dictionaries that I can find.
GreatGreenArkleseizure 17:39, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Mediterrean means Inbetween land (medi = between, terra=land). Meditereanity sounds nevertheless like hell. Given the fact that the country is land locked... might be a better option. --Mariano(t/c) 12:15, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
This is my mistake, and I'll own up to it. I mistranslated the word "mediterraneo" which in spanish means landlocked. I'll fix it if its not fixed already. Mariscal8
Hello everyone! You may want to go to Latin cultures an participate in the article and discussion. There are a lot of disputed statements... The Ogre 12:38, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
What does this word mean? Brian Pearson 03:40, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
We need to improve this page. Can any one suggest a model page? Mariscal8 (talk) 21:19, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
There are certain facts about the Paraguayan culture that will take some time to source. Unfortunately, most of the most in-depth and verifiable sources on Paraguayan culture and society are not readily available on the internet. In the meantime, I think its a disrespect to remove certain statements from this page, even if they are not correctly cited. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mariscal8 (talk • contribs) 04:58, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Mariscal 8 deleted this text:
Other non-Catholic, non-Protestant Christian religious groups have a significant presence in Paraguay, such as Seventh-Day Adventists, Jehovah's Witnesses and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, among others. The latter group (LDS, Mormon), for example, claims more than 66,000 members in Paraguay.[1]
describing it as propaganda - I think there is some value both in his/her point and in the text deleted - Religion in Paraguay should include religions other than Catholicism - There is certainly a Jewish community and synagogue in Asuncion, I assume that there is a Muslim community (in Ciudad del Este at least - there definitely is in Foz), What religion is common among the Korean community? The Mennonites are mentioned, the indigenous religions should also be discussed. However, the growth of movements such as the Mormons and the Seventh-day Adventists (particularly at the expense of the Catholic church) is a feature in the region - it is certainly prominent in Brazil, I've personally seen a growing presence in poorer areas of Argentina, such as Formosa (and there is also growth in areas such as Córdoba). While I'm certainly no convert, I'm not convinced that the deleted paragraph is either propaganda or irrelevant - anyone out there knowledgeable enough to contribute? I'll try and do some research if I get a chance.--Pysproblem (talk) 09:53, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
I found the results of the 2002 census here: http://www.dgeec.gov.py/ - that has a huge table of the different religions, but would need it's own page..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pysproblem (talk • contribs) 11:03, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Have now created fore-mentioned page at Religion in Paraguay - It just has a table created from 1992 and 2002 censuses. I have found some further info through research and will add later to flesh out page--Pysproblem (talk) 11:11, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
Who told that? Please, do not forget that is an encyclopedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Douglas Antunes (talk • contribs) 16:48, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
I made a rearangement of the article in orther to match it's style to the other nations' articles. I only changed the order of the sections, and places of the pictures, but didn't change anything in the text. Vanjagenije (talk) 03:20, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Heard that because of the bloody war with the Triple Allience in 1870s The loss of most of the male population of Paraguay That it was "legal" for women in Paraguay (at least Secular law) to have more then one husband? Article did not mention this.Thanks!(AfternoonSat.Oct.17,200921stcent. Dated Dr.Edson Andre' Johnson D.D.ULC>)EDSONANDREJ (talk) 22:48, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Poligamy is not legal in Paraguay, but in the aftermath of the war it was common practice for a man to have more than one "partner", since they didn't marry. The purpose of this was repopulation the nation which was decimated during the war, specially the male population which consisted mainly of children, old men and very few adult war survivors. Veritiel (talk) 12:26, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
Did Paraguay's political history really finish in 1988? Anyone reading this article would certainly think so. Should this not be brought up to date, including events leading up to the election of the country's first leftist president in 2008? Skinsmoke (talk) 02:44, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
the article begins by noting that Paraguay is one of only two landlocked countries "entirely in the Western Hemisphere". I understand that Bolivia is the other one.... but why is the word "Entirely" used. Is there some other landlocked nation partially in the western hemisphere? .... never mind doing some checking I guess Burkina Faso does straddle the Prime Meridian... but wouldn't it be simply simply to say "the americas" and drop the "entirely"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aapold (talk • contribs) 11:34, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
This is such a bizarre factoid that it's a rather jarring start to the article, surely mentioning that it is landlocked is sufficient? 81.108.240.122 (talk) 19:32, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
"The official narrative of Paraguay's history is fraught with disputes among historians, educators and politicians. The "authentic" version of historical events, wars in particular, varies depending on whether it was written in Paraguay, Argentina, Uruguay, Brazil, Bolivia, Europe, or West America."
I represent a very powerful group of individuals who are concerned with the use of the title "West America." What does that even mean? Are they talking about the Western United States? That doesn't seem to make sense, since with the exception of Texas, our historical accounts are more or less standardized. Please explain this. I believe that this could reflect poorly on Paraguay if it is not clarified.
Chillbear Latrigue —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.204.156.245 (talk) 22:54, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
The following claim is not sufficiently supported: "During the pillaging of Asuncion (Saqueo de Asunción) in 1869, the Brazilian Imperial Army ransacked and relocated the Paraguayan National Archives to Rio de Janeiro where they have been kept in secrecy,[9]". The supplied citation leads to a document that does not refer to the Paraguayan National Archives, only to Brazil's records of the war against Paraguay. In fact, the exact reference from the linked document is as follows:
"And lest the reader think that materials of greatest interest to historians are not likely to be affected, we might note that documents from Brazil's War against Paraguay (1864–70) remain classified so that details of that bloody conflict will not damage the image of the Duke of Caxias, Brazil's leading 19th-century war hero."
On a personal note, the whole reference seems like a conspiracy theory and does not belong to Wikipedia. If there are proper citations for the claim they must be added to the text, otherwise the claim should be dropped. Summeranarchist (talk) 09:48, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
What is the Minister of Education and Culture talking about? The suggestion that enough of the mestizo population was killed off as to make them a minority in a sea of Italian and German descendants sounds rather fantastic, to say the least. It goes against all of the other demographic speculation, not to mention the survival of Guarani as the majority language. Why would Italian immigrants bother to learn the drastically different language of a dying minority that also conveniently happens to speak Spanish, which is much closer to Italian and much more practical for communication purposes? Early colonial Brazil had a similar situation with a Tupi-based creole as the lingua franca used by the majority population, but as the Tupi-descended population became more and more outnumbered by Europeans and Africans, Portuguese quickly supplanted it. I think the Minister is just playing into the old "whitening" policies of post-colonial Latin American nationalism with a bit of wishful thinking. --74.103.150.125 (talk) 22:58, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
I couldn´t agree more with this. The numbers of Europeans in Paraguay is too small to even be closer to represent the majority. It is very well known that over 90% of the Paraguayan population has some Amerindian heritage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.23.72.243 (talk) 21:38, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
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We should creating a section for these two subjects. I've already found at least one source we could draw from to start us off. http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/1841.htm#econ--Zurkhardo (talk) 06:03, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
A number of citations in this article unnecessarily include the publisher for periodicals and websites that have their own Wikipedia article. This information has no value to anyone wanting to check or track down references. For example, publisher=Washington Post Company for references to The Washington Post, or publisher=MLB Advanced Media for references to Baseball-Reference.com, only make the article longer - significantly longer when repeated many times - without adding anything useful. Therefore I plan to upgrade the article's citations to remove all such redundant publisher info, bringing them into line with the recommended use of the cite template (see Template:Citation#Publisher). Please raise any questions here or on my talk page. Colonies Chris (talk) 21:41, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
What on earth is a "free commercial zone"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peanutaxis (talk • contribs) 04:44, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
Hi! It would be great if you could create this article: Tourism in Paraguay!
Perhaps you can draw some inspiration from Tourism in Brazil and Tourism in Germany. :) Use proper sources! Thanks & all the best, Horst-schlaemma (talk) 22:23, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
"Guaraní is recognized as an official language alongside Spanish, and both languages are widely spoken in the country, with around 92 percent of the general population speaking Spanish and 98 percent speaking Guaraní."
...Huh? 184.254.7.67 (talk) 20:23, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
Recently, somewhere in this group of edits, several figures were changed and given more recent "as of" dates. However, the sources used to back up the figures weren't changed, which leaves, for example, a source published in 2009 seemingly given to support an estimate from 2015. Slightly anachronistic, to say the least. I don't know enough about Paraguay to be able to tell if the new numbers are legitimate. If so, they need to be properly sourced and the old sources need to be deleted. If not, the edits in question need to be undone.--William Thweatt TalkContribs 07:33, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
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Electric power in Paraguay: Here is an article on Paraguay without one word mentioning the huge hydroelectric power dams on the Parana River along the borders of Paraguay with Brazil, and Paraguay with Argentina. Besides providing all of the electricity that Paraguay needs, these earn a huge amount of money every year from electric power exports to Brazil, Argentina, and Uruguay. This is VERY important in the economy of Paraguay. The power plant on the Brazilian border was the largest one in the world, but it has more recently been surpassed by the Three Gorges power dam on the Yangtze River.
Among other big exporters of hydroelectric power are Canada - to the USA; Norway - to Sweden, Denmark, Holland, and Germany; Switzerland; Ghana (from the Volta River); Bhutan; and Nepal.24.121.195.165 (talk) 20:53, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
A few thoughts:
Thanks - Snori (talk) 21:43, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
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In my opinion, the 'Largest cities' sub-heading in the 'Demographics' section of the article needs information adding to it as in my opinion it is pointless having a sub-heading in the article without any information underneath it. Xboxsponge15 (talk) 09:05, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
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Hi, just a suggestion, many country articles have sections or subsections for 'science and technology', this could be a section on this article as well.
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coast
noun
the land next to the sea; seashore:
'the rocky coast of Maine.'
the region adjoining it:
'They live on the coast, a few miles from the sea.'
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/coast
It might be correct to say it does in Spanish but not in English Lenbrazil (talk) 18:50, 25 February 2022 (UTC)