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To energy accounting, and article by Fezer. [http://www.technocracy.org/Archives/The%20Energy%20Certificate-r.htm The Energy Certificate An article on Energy Accounting. This post scarcity concept is drawn out in this essay.
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Is there not enough evidence that less and less human labour is required to produce all the useful wealth society needs? Janosabel (talk) 18:09, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Poverty exists because all human beings are born different. Weird, because the people who study poverty have never once come to that conclusion. Poverty exists because we have a system that benefits from haves and have nots and allows poverty to persist which allows others to horde wealth that would otherwise go to the poor. I thought everyone knew this. In countries where there is the least amount of poverty, the problem that is addressed isn’t that people are born different, it’s that they have access to equal opportunities. Also, in studies of people who generate vast amounts of wealth, it’s been shown that many of them (in the US) benefit from government subsidies or programs, such that their wealth is essentially guaranteed by funds that could have gone elsewhere in society. In fact, for every $1 a billionaire donates to charity, taxpayers contribute 74 cents in lost tax revenue alone. In other words, the government, due to corporate lobbying, subsidizes wealth and poverty. UBI is a pipe dream, same as voodoo economics, but updated for a new generation not familiar with the pathological lies of the right. They told us for 40 years that the wealth was going to trickle down from tax cuts for billionaires as they cut funding for democratic society, eliminated the middle class, and robbed the treasury. Every economic expert now says it was a lie and never happened. They still haven’t changed their policies. Now you expect us to embrace the new lie, that UBI will be implemented by the same economic gangsters that refuse to fund child lunch programs? I’m sorry, you must have me mistaken for a fool. The future will look a lot like Elysium and Westworld, with AI oppressing humanity and eliminating its self-determination and individuality, ironically at the behest of self-interested conservatives. If god existed, she would laugh. And in case you are not already aware, Musk knows this, which is why he wants to turn humans into cyborgs, as a survival mechanism. This is what happens when you let the bean counters and tech bros take over. Go read Hacker News for just a moment. They are all fascists. Post-scarcity won’t happen while billionaires rollback the clock on modernity and take us back to feudalism, serfdom, and company towns. The Kochs say we should all move underground to survive the coming climate change and just suck it up and evolve into Morlocks. That’s the product of a century of conservative thought. It’s always been nonsense, a system of self-justifying excuses for the rich to fuck everyone over. The future of humanity looks like a boot stomping on our faces, forever. UBI is the great myth of our time just as voodoo economics was the myth of the 1980s. Time to stop believing in myths and deal with reality. Viriditas (talk) 02:58, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]