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1 probable misspelling *dheH1  





2 Why *pl̥hnós > *fullaz?  
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3 Note 3  
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4 Language code?  
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5 Diphthong iu  
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probable misspelling *dheH1[edit]

"dheH1" appears in the verb subsection, paragraph three, "PIE *dheH1- originally "put"". The notation doesn't make sense, the 'd' should be noted as aspirated or as before one of the laryngeals, and the H1 should either be in lowercase or unmarked. It should probably be 'dheh1', but I want to be sure, what source was this pulled from?

Why *pl̥h₁nós > *fullaz?[edit]

Shouldn't there be an ə between l and n (see "Vocalisation of remaining laryngeals"), preventing /ln/ > /ll/ assimilation (as elision occurs later)? Same applies to *h₂wĺ̥h₁neh₂ > wullō. --2003:DD:E710:A70:F4E6:1E72:5FAF:E249 (talk) 01:01, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note 3[edit]

The quote found in note 3 cited to Ringe (2006) either does not exist or is cited to wrong source. Ringe (2006) page 85 is about the epenthesis of vowels before resonants (the Ṛ> uR stuff) and word-final m̥ becoming n̥. Also, the word "Jastorf" does not appear in the book. --Ioe bidome (talk) 21:37, 18 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have Just gotten the second edition of Ringe's book, and the quote actually comes from there --Ioe bidome (talk) 18:44, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Language code?[edit]

Is there an ISO language code to put into etymology sections in Wiktionary?GregZak (talk) 04:41, 4 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Diphthong iu[edit]

Can anyone provide a source for a PGmc diphthong iu? I've looked at the admittedly somewhat old and very cursory "Germanisch-deutsche Sprachgeschichte im Ueberblick" as well as Salmons "A History of German" and I find no mention of this diphthong in Proto-Germanic, although it seems to be omnipresent in Wiktionary's reconstructions of PGmc words. Schweikle does show a diphthong iu developing later in Gothic and Old High German, and Salmons mentions a change in Old High German from PGmc *eu to *io/*iu (depending on environment) in Old High German. Is there a source that discusses this?--Ermenrich (talk) 15:09, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ringe's book From proto-Indo-European to Proto-Germanic probably describes what you're looking for.Ioe bidome (talk) 21:18, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was hoping someone with access to such a source could confirm the information/add a citation.--Ermenrich (talk) 22:45, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've added it now Ioe bidome (talk) 00:18, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! Ermenrich (talk) 01:42, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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