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Good articlePruemopterus has been listed as one of the Natural sciences good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassessit.
Good topic starPruemopterus is part of the Adelophthalmidae series, a good topic. This is identified as among the best series of articles produced by the Wikipedia community. If you can update or improve it, please do so.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
January 28, 2024Good article nomineeListed

GA Review[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


This review is transcluded from Talk:Pruemopterus/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Etriusus (talk · contribs) 18:52, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]


I'll review this. @Super Dromaeosaurus:, I can see you're not the majority author but you say that there's an explanation. I'm more than okay with reviewing it even without Ichthyovenator since their inactive. 🏵️Etrius (Us) 18:52, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for picking up this review. Here is why I've nominated this article [1]. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 20:24, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Images

Copy-Vios

Sourcing

Only three sources show up on google scholar and nothing appears on the WPL.
One of them is the original description (the main source of this article), and another one as you mentioned before just has a passing mention of Pruemopterus. I've checked the third one [2], it has two passing mentions of the genus again without substantial information. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 20:24, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It should be noted that multiple tertiary sources claim the species was discovered in 2021, but the original paper was published in 2020. The current article is correct.
I have access to the two cited sources and to the other two mentioning Pruemopterus, I can email them to you if you want. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 20:24, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 20:24, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Good article nominations since I've never encountered a single source reliant GA before. I'm leaning towards allowing it, but I'll seeking some advice since it's a novel set of circumstances. One source that meets both WP:NOTE and criteria 3b. 🏵️Etrius (Us) 21:04, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Additional sourcing

Added what I regarded important from paleobiodb.org. There's three sources now. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 21:00, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Misc

Prose

In the opening sentence? I think "monotypic" could be too technical for it, and in any case it is immediately specified that the genus has one species later.
Done.
Specified that they're geological deposits and linked to Deposition (geology)
Rewritten to The name of the genus is derived.
Does which lived during the same epoch as Pruemopterus fix it?
I think it's an important detail, the text is saying comparisons have been made between Pruemopterus and a problematic species which might actually not be a valid species but a synonym of another, it briefly explains the taxonomical situation of the compared species.
I also think this is relevant information, it suggests any comparisons between Unionopterus and Pruemopterus should be done with caution as the former is fragmentarily known, even if they may appear substantially different.
Disagree for the sake of consistency throughout eurypterid articles, we have three eurypterid FAs (Megarachne, Onychopterella and Megalograptus) and this is the structure they use.
Split it into two, and shortened it a bit.
Also disagree for the same reason as the "History of research" section, it is the standard in eurypterid articles. I've moved info from the description section to the classification one as the description should be strictly about the genus and not about how does it compare to other relatives.
Seems superfluous and it is not a technical term in taxonomy or geology, the word's use in the original source doesn't seem too important, so I've removed it.

After raising this with WP:GA, the consensus is that only a few sources for a species/genus page is fine. I made some edits of my own, including moving a half paragraph to where I felt it made more sense, please review my changes and feel free to revert if you disagree. All-in-all, nothing too serious. Placing on hold. 🏵️Etrius (Us) 01:13, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I disagreed with a few, here are my justifications [4] [5]. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 17:25, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not super thrilled about the layout of the article but I see there's at least precedent for it. I made a few additional edits. Signing off on GA, congrats!!
Good Article review progress box
Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. noWP:OR () 2d. noWP:CV ()
3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant ()
Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed
🏵️Etrius (Us) 03:08, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


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